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Cat333Pokémon January 8, 2013 04:43:42 AM

Generation VI pets
 
Looks like there won't be any sprites in XY (not sure if at least some part of the game will have sprites), so I'm not sure how I will implement the new Pokémon in the coming days/weeks. If anyone has any good ideas, go ahead and post them. Remember, I cannot use images unless they can be perfectly cropped out and placed on a background of a different color.

Shade January 8, 2013 05:00:07 AM

Give it time. There will eventually be non-official 2D sprites of the Generation 6 pokémon.

Cat333Pokémon January 8, 2013 12:51:06 PM

I just hope they don't look like crap and I don't have to give credit. :p (Well, maybe on the credits page, but not on the sprite or the Pokémon page.)

PHANTOMxTRAINER January 10, 2013 06:02:46 PM

When simulators have to use the Gen VI pokemon, they'll probably find sprites too, so you might be able to use them as a source xD

Cat333Pokémon June 11, 2013 07:18:15 AM

*BUMP*

Anyone else have any ideas? I kind of want to add some Gen VI Pokémon, but it might be too early, as we lack the evolutions right now.

Maybe the games will still include some form of sprites (similar to menu icons), so who knows?

PureAurorae June 11, 2013 07:23:31 AM

I think the game will include the menu icon sprites, but will be in a different style than they normally are (as this is a 3D game).

And I think that you could add these new Gen VI Pokemon. Even though the Evolutions aren't released, I don't think people will mind too much.

Ningamer June 12, 2013 07:24:25 AM

Menu icons is a possibility, but on the topic of cropping it looks like there's not going to be any anti-aliasing in the new games, which should make cropping them out perfectly a breeze. I guess a lot of sites will be having this problem, since sprites are such a big part of the handheld games that many fansites rely on them greatly, so maybe we can just wait around and see what they do!

If all else fails, we have a community here which consists of at least a few decent spriters, too! :P

Magmaster12 June 12, 2013 08:27:38 AM

We've actually already seen menu icons.
http://cdn.gamerant.com/wp-content/u...-Y-Pokedex.jpg

Twiggy June 12, 2013 11:37:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magmaster12 (Post 281030)
We've actually already seen menu icons.
http://cdn.gamerant.com/wp-content/u...-Y-Pokedex.jpg

I spy, with my eye... the RSE-era Zigzagoon icon?

Reuniclus June 12, 2013 02:49:06 PM

I can see Fletchling and Fennekin's menu icons in the picture. I wouldn't mind waiting for the Gen 6 adopts until X and Y come out, honestly. We'll have all of the menu icons by then.

Cat333Pokémon June 12, 2013 03:54:32 PM

The small icons will be nice for the little icons below names, but I'll need full-size sprites to add the Pokémon to VRAC without them looking out of place.

john-li June 12, 2013 06:49:39 PM

Maybe the sprinters of victory road can work together and make them? Nudge nudge wink wink

Aquablast August 20, 2013 05:40:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cat333Pokémon (Post 281058)
The small icons will be nice for the little icons below names, but I'll need full-size sprites to add the Pokémon to VRAC without them looking out of place.

You could replace the full-size sprites with the Pixel images of the Pokemon. The full-size sprites aren't as important as the icon sprites.

Cat333Pokémon August 20, 2013 05:58:27 PM

A lot of people use these off VR where the full-size icons are the norm. Hmm...

Aquablast August 23, 2013 12:41:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cat333Pokémon (Post 284279)
A lot of people use these off VR where the full-size icons are the norm. Hmm...

Well you could find some spriters on DA or Youtube to help us with this.

RotomGuy August 23, 2013 12:54:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cat333Pokémon (Post 284279)
A lot of people use these off VR where the full-size icons are the norm. Hmm...

Actually, the 3D models in battling seem to be able to be cropped without white edges. We can just get the models from a good view and make them the right size. It might be possible.

Cat333Pokémon August 23, 2013 02:14:45 PM

That might be doable. Gotta find someone with the 3DS capture device planning to get X/Y who is willing to help (unless someone releases the images credit-free). Of course, there will be official art, so we could use the Sugimori art too.

Twiggy August 24, 2013 12:46:08 AM

If we're going with alternative kinds of art, it'd be wise to replace all of them for consistency's sake.

Cat333Pokémon August 24, 2013 06:00:49 PM

Yes, that is indeed what I was thinking.

Magmaster12 September 4, 2013 10:11:53 AM

Well here's some proper sprites if you want to put out certain pokemon early.
http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en...2_01_61sb0.jpg
This seems to work out best for GrassPokemonFTW since Chespin is the only starter

Cat333Pokémon September 4, 2013 10:20:15 AM

Yeah, I saw that on Kotaku. Those sprites would be fine for the little icons, but we'd still need something for the full art.

Magmaster12 September 4, 2013 10:24:49 AM

I'd just use the official art since there seems to be no alternative.

RotomGuy September 4, 2013 10:26:05 AM

I say use the Official Art for now, then use the cropped 3D models.

Twiggy September 4, 2013 10:42:27 AM

Official art for full-size, cropped minisprites if possible for thumbnails.

Cat333Pokémon September 4, 2013 11:21:53 AM

Hm, just realized another challenge: I can't look at them.

Twiggy September 4, 2013 09:40:09 PM

Seeing as there will be a Pokémon Global Link for X and Y, do you think we should wait until then? Flash Player assets can be easily extracted (as seen in Global Link for Generation V). Think there will also be mini-sprites there? I think that there will probably DW-equivalent art there.

Cat333Pokémon September 4, 2013 09:42:03 PM

That could work if they get put up.

Again, though, I can't look at the Pokémon until I see most of them in-game. I don't want to be spoiled, so it'll probably be a month or more before VRAC gets them. That'll also give whoever extracts the images plenty of time to actually get them. :P

Wildfire28382 September 4, 2013 11:22:56 PM

People who make sprites of gen 6? I've been watching someone who does that on DA
http://quanyails.deviantart.com

Cat333Pokémon September 4, 2013 11:27:31 PM

That requires requesting for permission. I prefer using official media.

RotomGuy September 6, 2013 11:23:22 PM

Here is what I was talking about the 3D models:

https://pokemonxystuff.wordpress.com/Litleo

Use the models like that.

Cat333Pokémon September 7, 2013 12:36:22 AM

Haven't heard of that Pokémon, so I can't click that link.

RotomGuy September 7, 2013 12:48:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Cat333Pokémon (Post 285118)
Haven't heard of that Pokémon, so I can't click that link.

https://pokemonxystuff.wordpress.com...kemon/froakie/

Cat333Pokémon September 7, 2013 11:38:39 AM

Hm, where'd they get those sprites? Also, 120x120?! Sheesh, that'd be too big. I'm not increasing the size again. >_>

Magmaster12 October 1, 2013 10:17:28 AM

According this Cat might also need to replace the icons.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__...vos-viejos.png

PHANTOMxTRAINER October 4, 2013 12:20:00 PM

http://serebii.net/bank/pics.shtml looks like we will be getting the little sprites available!

Magmaster12 October 4, 2013 01:00:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PHANTOMxTRAINER (Post 286187)
http://serebii.net/bank/pics.shtml looks like we will be getting the little sprites available!

...

Have you been reading any posts on this thread at all?

Twiggy October 22, 2013 05:06:39 AM

I just realized that Serebii has both a 3DS capture device and is getting 2D caps of Pokémon models off his captures. They sure look very nice on Serebii's site. Think you might be able to get permission to use his captures for both main and icon "sprites"?

Cat333Pokémon October 22, 2013 06:17:10 AM

I still have that e-mail from Serebii Joe saying that I could use Gen V materials without credit during the news days, so that probably is still valid. 'Course, in this instance, if he's doing the capturing himself, that might be different.

Twiggy October 22, 2013 06:23:00 AM

I believe it might be a good idea to ask again. You can never be too safe with things like credit.

Cat333Pokémon October 22, 2013 06:32:25 AM

Either that or I'll wait for Bulbapedia to get something of the sort, as their materials are usually usable.

Also, the images are a little...big. I mean, it doesn't really matter here because the icons will be fine, nor does it actually matter for the images on the adoption site, but for the people embedding them in their signatures on other forums, the images will be about 120x140.

Hmm, maybe I should change the default signature images to use the icons too instead of the full sprites?

http://adopt.victoryroad.net/image/-1734.png
(for everyone, not just what I did for VR)

After all, it does limit the number that can be put into a signature having a huge image like that. I can very easily convert all the large images to small ones with a little renaming.


Heck, if I go that route, maybe I can just convert to Sugimori or Dream World artwork? But then what should I do about shinies?

Twiggy October 22, 2013 07:26:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cat333Pokémon (Post 287154)
Either that or I'll wait for Bulbapedia to get something of the sort, as their materials are usually usable.

Also, the images are a little...big. I mean, it doesn't really matter here because the icons will be fine, nor does it actually matter for the images on the adoption site, but for the people embedding them in their signatures on other forums, the images will be about 120x140.

Hmm, maybe I should change the default signature images to use the icons too instead of the full sprites?

http://adopt.victoryroad.net/image/-1734.png
(for everyone, not just what I did for VR)

After all, it does limit the number that can be put into a signature having a huge image like that. I can very easily convert all the large images to small ones with a little renaming.


Heck, if I go that route, maybe I can just convert to Sugimori or Dream World artwork? But then what should I do about shinies?

Hehe, I see what you're thinking of.

The Pokédex has a 3D model viewer built-in. Maybe Serebii can help in this - there's a zoom function in there, giving you three sizes. You can rotate them, too. Perhaps for larger Pokémon, the smallest size would fit better?

For the latter, you'd need someone else to help recolour all of them, so I think it might be a good idea to hold onto things until people actually get the shiny colours for everything.

This might take until the release of the next game(s), though. A good idea would be either suppressing shinies for new Pokémon or temporarily using the same art as normal until a shiny "sprite" shows up.

Cat333Pokémon October 25, 2013 10:59:26 AM

Alright, yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm going to switch to the mini icons as the default for off VR as well. I think all I have to do is rename a single file. Shinies are going to definitely be a challenge, though. There is no artwork of them (including Gen VI).

There are these, however:
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/in...spin+Dream.png

Cat333Pokémon October 26, 2013 07:52:49 PM

Alright, I have swapped the icons and updated the [adopt] BB Code, so now everyone is using the mini icons. I've also obtained the both the mini icons and the images of the Gen VI Pokémon off Serebii. I have also obtained all of the X/Y mini icons of previous gen Pokémon too (at least the ones that have been found so far). No idea if I can use them yet, though, and they're still missing shiny forms.

Twiggy October 27, 2013 12:25:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cat333Pokémon (Post 287483)
Alright, I have swapped the icons and updated the [adopt] BB Code, so now everyone is using the mini icons. I've also obtained the both the mini icons and the images of the Gen VI Pokémon off Serebii. I have also obtained all of the X/Y mini icons of previous gen Pokémon too (at least the ones that have been found so far). No idea if I can use them yet, though, and they're still missing shiny forms.

Guess we'll have to temporarily mark shiny Pokémon with some other method for now. Better than going behind, eh?

RotomGuy October 27, 2013 12:34:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cat333Pokémon (Post 287483)
Alright, I have swapped the icons and updated the [adopt] BB Code, so now everyone is using the mini icons. I've also obtained the both the mini icons and the images of the Gen VI Pokémon off Serebii. I have also obtained all of the X/Y mini icons of previous gen Pokémon too (at least the ones that have been found so far). No idea if I can use them yet, though, and they're still missing shiny forms.

The model images of Pokemon on Serebii look like they come from the previews from the Pokedex. If that is the case, we can send you pictures of our Shinies in the Pokedex and you could crop them. (if possible)

Cat333Pokémon October 27, 2013 12:49:21 AM

Er, how would we take a clean picture of them? I don't know anyone here with a 3DS capture device. I had a buddy with one, but he graduated last semester and moved away. It'd probably be easier to modify the ones from Serebii, and we probably won't get the rest of the images until the Bank comes out. It'd look really weird to have some of them still as sprites.

I'm hoping Bulbapedia gets the rest of the Global Link images so we can temporarily use those.

Cat333Pokémon November 1, 2013 12:56:17 PM

Alright, I'm going to pass on using the Global Link images. I think I'll find out if I can use the captured 3D models.

Cat333Pokémon November 27, 2013 11:01:35 PM

Hm, at this point, would it be wise to simply play the waiting game until a little after Pokémon Bank comes out? I'm not sure what to do about the images.

Twiggy November 27, 2013 11:07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cat333Pokémon (Post 288760)
Hm, at this point, would it be wise to simply play the waiting game until a little after Pokémon Bank comes out? I'm not sure what to do about the images.

I bet Serebii might be able to get the mini icons for every single Pokémon with a bit of screen capture magic.

(Also, I think the PC Box quick-view is better for full-size Pokémon images, too. No nasty faux LCD overlay.)

Cat333Pokémon November 27, 2013 11:14:57 PM

Faux LCD overlay? You mean for the images of the Pokémon?

And yeah, I already have all the Gen VI mini icons (and updated icons for some previous Pokémon).

Twiggy November 27, 2013 11:21:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cat333Pokémon (Post 288762)
Faux LCD overlay? You mean for the images of the Pokémon?

And yeah, I already have all the Gen VI mini icons (and updated icons for some previous Pokémon).

Yep. I'm actually that there are multiple places where you can get a nice, fixed view of a Pokémon. Besides the Pokédex, you have the top screen PC Box summary, and the general Pokémon summary screen to work with.

Cat333Pokémon November 27, 2013 11:30:06 PM

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Does this image have the overlay you're talking about?

Twiggy November 27, 2013 11:42:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cat333Pokémon (Post 288764)
Does this image have the overlay you're talking about?

No.

(The overlay is very obvious.)

Cat333Pokémon November 27, 2013 11:56:14 PM

Ooh, alright. The Serebii images should be usable, then.

BluFire1337 November 28, 2013 10:29:53 PM

I believe the overlay spoken of is the one that the Pokedex uses. It's very annoying.

RotomGuy November 28, 2013 10:34:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BluFire1337 (Post 288801)
I believe the overlay spoken of is the one that the Pokedex uses. It's very annoying.

All the little dots? Yeah, don't like them.

Twiggy December 11, 2013 07:54:53 AM

Looks like we won't have any trouble trying to get shiny Pokémon images as Serebii has begun to compile shiny images for the new Pokémon.

Cat333Pokémon December 11, 2013 11:40:48 AM

Well, that's good to hear. Hope I wouldn't have any problem using them.

Cat333Pokémon December 24, 2013 06:44:31 PM

Looks like Serebii now has the unobtainable Pokémon models up.

Cat333Pokémon December 26, 2013 12:14:53 PM

Generation VI pets are now available! (Several pets are currently unavailable due to being prizes.)

Reuniclus December 26, 2013 12:36:52 PM

Are you going to give the option for Espurr to evolve into female Meowstic? Right now I think it defaults to the male one.

Cat333Pokémon December 26, 2013 12:42:48 PM

For the time being, genders do not exist. I've considered adding them several times, but it simply isn't feasible at the time.

TurtwigX December 26, 2013 12:51:56 PM

You could be totally game-breaking and have it evolve with a male stone or a female stone. :P But it's not that big.

Cat333Pokémon December 28, 2013 08:51:09 PM

It is working for you guys, right?

TurtwigX December 28, 2013 09:27:16 PM

Oh crap, you're right I should so test this.

...And I just got a Honedge. Those images are lookin' pretty good. I'd add it to my signature but there's an issue with the line limit and I don't feel like trying to fix it this late in the morning.

Karpy ~aka Zoroarklover~ December 29, 2013 01:47:21 PM

Woo hoo! I come back to Gen VI pets available!

Aquablast January 25, 2014 05:00:11 AM

Serebii had updated their site with all the shiny images expect Celebi, Jirachi, Arceus, Victini, Reshiram, Zekrom, Keldeo, Meloetta, Xerneas, Yveltal and Zygarde Shiny Forms.

Cat333Pokémon January 25, 2014 12:53:00 PM

Hm, Frillish and Binacle are also missing. Otherwise, I have added all the shiny images except those listed above.

kakashidragon January 25, 2014 02:22:57 PM

What Gen 6 mons you have added? If its in the first post i'll go check.

Cat333Pokémon January 25, 2014 03:13:05 PM

I have added all of them, but I set a few aside for special events, including the monthly promotions.


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