Hm, I haven't really added any alternate formes for any other Pokémon. I guess I should try to get that out.

You think for the Pokemon adopts thing, would there be a way to battle them somehow? Be cool if we had a lvl 5,000 adopt vs a Lvl 5,000 one.

That's specifically one of the reasons I got rid of VictoryBattles and created a simple adoption system. Nobody really cared about the battling or the adventure, just the adoptions.

I think people should be able to submit things to be adoptables. Why cant we do that? And wasn't that going to be one of the features from the get go.?

That already exists. You may submit pet suggestions here: http://victoryroad.net/showthread.php?t=9400

Hey cat is there a way we could get adopts that we missed?

Considering the monthly adoptables are similar to events in Pokémon games, where if you miss it during the event time you missed it until the next event, I'm going to say no, but it's ultimately Cat's decision on whether or not special adoptables will be adoptable again.

There may be a chance that we at one point run out of events and have to use them again. Or an event where you get any one event pokemon (excluding legends). Like Quad said it is up to Cat. I just wanted to help out. :D

Quad and Plaz are correct. Each month, I choose a pet that we haven't had for an event. Once all events have been used, I'll shuffle them up again and start over. Some events are given out annually, such as Delibird for Christmas/Hanukkah, (starting 2013) Luvdisc for Valentine's Day, (starting 2013) Voltorb twice for New Year's and American Independence Day, and (starting 2012) Duskull for Halloween. I'm considering withdrawing a couple more for other special days.

However, there are a total of 36 monthly events, so that means it will be roughly three years before I start over.

Then i guess i'll wait that long. OH! you ever going to add keldeo and zekrom and stuff as adopts soon? Im just wondering.

Being the helpful bee that I am, I would say no. Legends and such are normally prizes for tournaments, or for a non staff helping out the staff. One example of that might be someone retrieving images for VRAC. There is a very small chance that they will be added to the list of the ones you can adopt at anytime.

Edit: That is one of the reasons you do not see Lugia, Heatran, Zapdos, etc. as an adopt.

I am sure if you did something big for the site they would reward you. It is the nice this to do :D

Plaz is again correct. You may not adopt legends and must acquire them for either winning tournaments or a few yet-to-be-revealed methods.

How about from a different adopt source? (If any, like from a different site or something)

That wouldn't be right.

1) It would take a lot of maintenance and I am positive that Cat has a lot on his plate already.

2) There isn't much logic behind it.

3) People wouldn't feel as special if they got a legend.

4) It is a time consuming this to make a website and then there are task that even after you have completed it follow it. Like repairing it.

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. Is it this: "Well, if you won't provide a legend, what's stopping them from going to another adoption site to get one?"

If so, this part of Plaz's answer should work:

Oh ok i get it now. I remember on a forum i ran into and people had legend adopts.

Right now, there are those with legends, like Jirachi. This Jirachi was obtained by those who won the first place in the annual nominations. So other legends could be obtained by similar means.

oK I understand now.

Hey, I remember there being a random 6 Pokemon you could choose from to adopt, and you could see it before you adopted it.

Why was that redone if you don't mind me asking? (because I really liked this.)

The entire VictoryBattles project was completely broken. After figuring out that very few people cared about anything beyond the adoption aspect, I wiped his project, coded the VRAC from scratch, and migrated over about 24,000 Pokémon (determination method shown in this thread).

Regarding the "random 6" aspect, specifically, well, that was a bit of a mess. First, a lot of people hated having over 1,000 Pokémon but still only having about fifty they cared about. (In the worst case, someone had approximately 13,000 Pokémon.) Second, it left a lot of mess in the database. Before, there were nearly 300,000 total adoptions (and with Freeze's poorly optimized table structure, that was over 100 MB alone), but again, only a tiny percentage of them were cared about. Third, the new system specifically includes methods of limiting how quickly you can acquire pets: no more than ten kept per day, with releasing required for more.

Trust me when I say that it's for the best that system is gone. Almost nobody liked it, and it clogged the system up.

I really only liked it because it was easier to get shines lmao, but you could have also made a "New Group" Button which would show a new 6 pokemon so you didn't have to choose one of them and have Pokemon you didn't care about.

Thats just my two cents, feel free to ignore it, I just like shiny Blue Pokemon.

Yeah, that was the other thing. I felt it was too easy. It might be a little too hard now, though. Odds are 1 in 100.

I was thinking, we should have an achievement pokemon.
Now I am not saying that there is going to be multiple ones, but here is my idea:
I think that there should be a goal, and this goal could be "Find [said #] of Shinies", "Click [said #] of other peoples pets", "Adopt [said #] of Pokemon", "Share it on another Forum" or something challenging (or social) along those lines. And then when that one goal is complete they get an adoptable no one else had.

The prize could also be a free shiny. If you chose that route then you could change the goal every so often to make it a little more fun.

I think this will promote more activity on VRAC (which, IMO, would be good) and encourage people to share the site.

We tried implementing an achievement system a few years ago. We got rid of it when we realized we had no idea what to use for achievements, and not many folks really cared about the few we had.

I will admit, if we had some really good ones, it could encourage folks to try to get them all.

Yeah... I think I knew that, but I am just talking like, there would be a thread to request the shiny/"chosen adopt" that was the prize and the poster would give proof they did it and when you got time you would give 'em it.

I mean, the prize would be the incentive, not the goal. The goal could probably be the have a Koffing in your signature, and it would be enough if people liked the prize :)

But thanks for the feedback.

I think an achievement system would be interesting. In my opinion, prizes from achievements should go in the area under your username where your post count rank is (like somewhere around the Kyurem I have) in the form of badges or icons.

I've seen a few other forums use some sort of badge or achievement system and the biggest problem I can see from those places is the only people who will know just how amazing or special those badges/achievements are will be the regulars of the forum.

For example (if Cat doesn't mind me linking to another forum to prove my point), look at the user named "Hostile"'s post: http://forum.starmen.net/forum/Games.../1#post1919656
A couple of them have links attached to them, but what about the ones that don't? What exactly is the EarthBound Fanfest? What did this user do to get a badge that says "Hoy small fry!"? Only people who will really understand these badges are the longtime regulars of the forum, leaving newer users or people lurking the forum confused as to their meaning.

If we were to implement a badge/achievement system on the site here, the badges would have to be self-explanatory, but meaningful, or have something in the FAQ or user bar that explains all the current visible/achievable achievements.

It's obvious if we include achievements that hovering over them would give a detail or two about what they actually do. Just some ideas, but this is not confirmation that I would go through with this:

Super Poster
Posted 1,000 times; don't your fingers hurt?

Gotta Catch 'Em All
Adopted all non-legendary, non-event pets on VRAC (in any stage of evolution)

Big Cheese
Won an official VR tournament without being accused of cheating

New Record
Got at least X points in X game in the arcade

Trophy Hoarder
Obtain a trophy for having the #1 score on an arcade game, or your name is Quad ;)

Picture Perfect
Uploaded at least one photo to a photo album

Gamer
Contributed 500 posts to boards that don't count towards your posts

Facebook
Received at least one Like on a post

Facebook Addict
Received at least 100 Likes on posts

Over the Hill
Signed in after being registered for at least two years

Fitting In
Exchanged ten successful friend requests

Game³
Played every game in the arcade at least once

???
This is a secret achievement

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Yeah, but I obviously meant ones for VRAC... but if not then here are my other ideas:

If the ones under the name/userbar are too complicate, have a tab on the members profile that has the badges that person has been rewarded.

So it isn't a system (and it might be easier), have a thread where a member posts when they want the badge and then any mod+ and add that their profile. Also if it is too much to do that you could just have "Number of Badges: [state number]" under the name/userbar. Then if the person really cares they can visit the profile and see what ones they have.

If you do go through with this, have a thread for people to suggest the badges, so they feel like they were a part of it.

(I am still not giving up on my original shiny idea :lol: )

Adding VRAC achievements would be significantly easier (because I can hook everything into the code much more easily) than adding them to VR.

That is what I am talking about. But I think we have 2 different takes on what being discussed. Anyways, I would be happy to see some of these ideas implemented into VRAC. ^-^

EDIT: (Also, a good achievement would be having an adopt at level [said level])

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I plan on getting more of them, but I've been busy with school lately.

I don't know if this was requested or not, but could we have a trading system? I really feel like it added more to the adoptable system.

Yeah, a trading system has sat on the drawing board since before I even started coding. In fact, there's an entry attached to every pet (original owner) that only has a use with trading. The problem is I have no idea how to do it without making it annoying or useless.

Well if trading the adopts is difficult, what about a gifting system run with passwords/generated codes? Or is that too "un-Pokémon-like"?

Hmm, that might actually be doable. Even more simply, though, you could specify a user and the Pokémon would be instantly transferred to them.

You should make so you adopt more than one pokemon at a time so you don't have to go back every time and adopt another

Here's a little idea I thought of. You could implement Mega Evolution for the right Pokémon that reach 1,000 clicks.

Hmm, I like that, but 1,000 might be a bit much.