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I 90% agree with what you wrote, and feel the same way exactly.
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this is why I don't have a Wii yet...I can't believe in this day and age of superior 3-D video game graphics, the Pokemon on Wii look like squares, circles, and triangles...they were so much more realistic on the GameCube and N64...
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My only gripe is the crappy graphics, but if there gonna make a true pokemon fighting game with good graphics it would be a reaaallly long project to animate all 493 well.
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I like Rumble, it's a good game! I've had fun with it!
Now... The visuals... Smaller Pokémon look cute in this game. However, bigger Pokémon look horrible (WTF is up with Machamp?!), though the black lines around them in rumble made it slightly more bearable. |
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Here's my view on Rumble.
I don't mind the price. I don't mind the graphics. I don't mind the gameplay. I don't care about crappy spinoffs. The only thing I really, really, really, reeeeaaaallllyyyy can't stand about this game? The lack of second and third generation Pokemon. Now that I've gotten that out of the way, to prevent a graphics ***** arguement that I KNOW is going to break out because some random noob will walk in here, ignore all the actual backed-up opinions, and spew drivel all over this thread. The graphics used in this game are used in accordance to the cuteness and size of Miis. In Ranch, your Mii and Hayley would be seen alongside other Pokemon, right? It would seem kinda out of place if you're walking next to a millions-feet-tall Dialga and your Mii is only like, 5 feet tall. Thus, chibi-art. Also, Yoshi brought up the file-size of WiiWare games. This is also a contributing factor. Now, in Rumble, it is mentioned that the reason these Pokemon are so diminutive is because they're simple windup toys. Show me one toy that is lifelike in every detail (not almost lifelike, or almost like the real thing, but IS lifelike) and then I'll take back this arguement. But, seriously. What kind of small windup toy doesn't look like these graphics?? Moving on to Rumble's gameplay. An all-out melee fighter? In my opinion, that's one of the greatest things to ever happen to Pokemon. It's a tad slowpaced, but otherwise, the devs pulled this off well in the Pokemon enviroment given to them. Now the price. Every good WiiWare game that comes to mind is 1000 or more. Final Fantasy's My Life as a King is 1500 points plus DLC. Mega Man 9 is 1000 points, again, plus DLC. World of Goo is 1500. Lost Winds was 1000 points. The combined price of all episodes of Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People is 5000 points. The price simply tells you how much value you're going to be getting out of the game. The hiking of the price from 1000 to 1500 is kind of lame, but come on, you're going to be buying a $20 Nintendo Points Card anyways. |
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While I agree on the graphics of rumble and ranch being disgraceful, I like the idea behind rumble, even if it is poorly executed, and ranch needed some actual development. I think that rumble should have been bigger, more areas, ALL pokemon, etc. too, but I will give it some credit for being fun to play if you don't mind an eyesore.
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I feel like we're being divided in terms of what these games have. Too many of these games are broken up to where you can get the features that you got from the Stadium games but for a cumlatively larger price. I feel Pokemon Rumble is a suitable and large minigame that should have went with PBR. I don't think that would have been hard to do and if there was any notion from Nintendo for downloadable content for the game I wouldn't be complaining. Quote:
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Now, if this was an experiment for Nintendo on what we would like in the future and they wanted to see how this game did, I applaud Nintendo and look forward to better Pokemon fighting-styles games in the future. It will just have to show it has superior quality to this game in the future. Quote:
Now, I do in fact have a problem with Pokemon Ranch and was greatly disappointed by all the features it was lacking that I was really looking forward to. So yes, I'm biased there. And a five foot Dialga would be inappropriate against your Mii for the game itself. That doesn't mean they had to make this WiiWare game like it in the first place. That's what I'm saying. Again, if Nintendo is just trying something they want to build on and improve upon, I look forward to being contradicted, but I doubt it really. This game just seems like a step down from the Mystery Dungeon series, and that series will be on the WiiWare line-up soon as well. How come those games look so complete and this just seems so small and incomplete? And again, the pricing is still unfair. I have all of the games you mentioned (excluding MM9 and a few of the Strong Bad's) and those games seemed worth it (and I'm a Pokemon fan!). My gripe is that this game just seems repetitive and (not unoriginal) poorly executed. More time needed to be spent on it to make it more worthwhile for us (in other words, there needs to be a better balance between graphics and gameplay). Oh, and Chibi-Robo is one example of a toy that was done in a none-chibi style when you think about it. But I don't disagree with you Mt. You have your view on how the game plays. I just can't play this for more than an hour before I realize how bad it is to me. I think Swordfyre was trying to put down Nintendo by showing the Wii. I disagree though that all of Nintendo's games on the Wii are bad. When they make a great game, it tends to be memorable and special. We all play Brawl on here I'm sure and have enjoyed or been awed by the shear beauty of Galaxies. Even some of the third party games (especially RB2 and other music games; I'm a big fan of that genre too lol) are equal to or better than other systems on the Wii. I just think Nintendo is choosing bad companies to work with for Pokemon. Stick to Game Freak or someone who presents their ideas in a better way so that the end product is not abysmal. Quote:
As I've said before, I like the idea of Rumble. It's poorly executed though. I look forward to the day when I can start an adventure game as Blaziken and create a fighter that can use Sky Uppercut to send a foe into the air and then use a series of fire punches combo-style to take out an opponent. Then, another Pokemon is nearby, so I'll jump and use a Blaze Kick to knock him out as well. But this will not happen if Nintendo cannot provide a quality game that is perhaps in the $50 range but actually worth the buy. That wouldn't be so hard right? Just expand on Rumble's idea (perhaps w/o the toy idea) and improve the visuals and combat. I promise it would be a success. But Nintendo doesn't seem to understand that... |
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Mind you, I am not against the 'chibiness" of the Pokemon. I am only against how the graphics are, again, poorly made. Quote:
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By the way, I am not against Rumble as Jusjack91 is, as he seems to be very perturbed because of such games. However, I, up to an extent, agree with him. Also, I don't honestly think that Nintendo is going to stop launching good games, just because of some bad titles. I do believe (and confess) that Rumble still brings a very slight bit of fun to play, but this is overcome by the other worse features, unfortunately. |
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The Wii lacks many features the Xbox 360 and the Playstation 3 has. Motion control is just a gimmick. [s:3upa50nu]It is only a slightly improved Gamecube, in terms of hardware.[/s:3upa50nu] 80% of all Wii games are shovelware, and the only fantastic games for the system I can think of are Nintendo developed games. That's my perspective.
I really don't want to start an argument about this. Anyway, I might buy this game just to see if it's playable for more then 20 minutes. |
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And this game is really fun, even though I only have the demo. I'll probably get some Nintendo Points for Christmas and my birthday though. |
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Now, THOSE games, are for kids. The actual game is what we are after.
It's simple to avoid this- Look at reviews, don't like don't get it. Simple. I know you're just trying to get your point across but it's still komplaining. But I do agree with you in certain points. Besides, I would say the games you kan purchase online aren't really good. I don't play'em. I prefer actual games. Each to their own. (Btw, I didn't read the WHOLE thing. Just to where you got about Pokemon Rumble.) |
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He's one of them lol. And hey, if you get the game and enjoy it, it's not for me to say. It's all opinion and I'm glad to have gotten as many realistic responses, but as a college student, I'd rather save up for a game that will last me longer. This just seems like a quick sip of coffee early before my English class. I want a grande cappachino that will get me through the entire class lol. Quote:
I myself am looking forward to Pokepark. But even the reviews can get a game wrong. Yes, the reviews of this game end up agreeing with me, but other games are put down in Pokemon that don't deserve it in my view and in other people's views (for example, the GCN don't have such a good rep with IGN and other reviewers, but us Pokemon fans can appreciate what it is and its interesting features). Sometimes it helps to understand a game from another point of view, and for those that don't read the reviews of Rumble, I'm stating my views of it based on what I've played and what my brother has shown me on the full version. From what I'm seeing, it's not fulfilling and I agree with the reviews, but people can still buy it if they like it. People just need to know that when you purchase a game on WiiWare, statistics are taken to show what people like and want more of. If you buy World of Goo and rate it high on the Nintendo Channel, a sequel may come. If you rate Pokemon Rumble high and buy it and more buy that game compared to World of Goo, well...don't expect that World of Goo to receive Nintendo's focus too soon. Sales is everything, and to show support for the good quality games is crucial for a franchise to keep going or get started. Thank you all for your views btw. |
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I find it lifelike as can be. It may not move so, but it looks very lifelike in my opinion. |
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Yeah, I know what you mean about reviews. Those reviews make Mortal Kombat look like a total meltdown. Sure MK is a broken game, but Street Fighter is much MUCH more broken and it still gets all the glory. Well Nintendo is a kompany. They need money. They know by releasing these games kids will want them. It's all about business. But use older people know which games to choose and whatnot. Maybe Pokemon Rumble was just a true kiddy game. Honestly, I wouldn't know. |
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Ign?! Again?! I know what he's talking about. He's getting this stuff from IGN.com again. But, then again justjack91 has also played Hey you Pikachu! He said it was bad and I agree that some spin-offs are just a waste of money. When will Nintendo and Game Freak ever ban Ambrella.
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I've played rumble, it wasn't bad.
One thing I can't stand about it is the fact that they used the same stage over, and over, and over (and so forth). It gets repetitive and boring quickly, BUT ONLY IN ONE SITTING!! The stages themselves (besides the repetitiveness) were easy and quickly beaten, it makes it seem like Nintendo should've added a "choose your difficulty" feature. Even the mewtwo battle was pretty easy, but the music was pretty darn epic! But there should've been at least some challenge to that battle. If there was one thing I could change, I would probably change the enemy AI, or add at least and adaptive difficulty setting so that way the enemies would act just as good as you (after a long-enough time). While there was many things over-looked, the game still grabs me and i continue to play it. It might be the story, even though it seems different, its actually quite similar to the main-stream series (in a way). You collect pokemon and battle your way to the top of the strongest battlers/pokemon in the league. It's also filling the void of the fact I'm pretty bored of fire red, diamond and other pokemon games i have at the moment (waiting for Hg Ss, but more towards Ss) All in all, while it could've been alot better, its still a win in my book and I don't see how it's an insult to fans, its a spin-off, it's not going to be the next best thing since sliced bread (or pokemon main-stream series in this case). And if your going to judge it, base your judging on the fact its a spin-off instead of it being a pokemon game in general. And if I had to rate it, I would give it a 3.5 out of 5 (woot for unintentional reviews) |
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I don't understand the complaints about the graphics of Ranch and Rumble; I think they look perfectly fine. The only time graphics are a problem is when they are detrimental to the gameplay, which these aren't, and I personally think they're cute. I, unfortunately, don't have any free space on my Wii's NAND and I can't launch from my SD card due to Bannerbomb, so I can't try Pokémon Rumble, but I have My Pokémon Ranch and it's fine for what it is. It allows me to store my monsters, helps with my Pokédex, and allows me to take screenshots of Hitler playing with a Jigglypuff. It may be somewhat overpriced, but it does what it was meant to do, and would only be disappointing if I had expected a full game, which I didn't. As has been said, if you don't think you'll like it, don't buy it. I don't think Pokémon Rumble is anything close to a disgrace to anyone. |
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Here's my view on both Rumble and Ranch:
Rumble: Now I don't mind the graphics TOO MUCH this time around unlike Ranch. Now, It's just the gameplay that does seem a bit out of it's range. Ranch is basic unplayable but, we will get into that in just a sec. Rumble is reptitive and is just not rewarding like Justjack 91 said. I think YOU SHOULD GO FOR THE DEMO ONLY. Ranch: There is the definition of a word called crap. Which means it's a pile of crap and I would definitly classify Ranch as that. No playabilty and replayability. It's probably terrible in every way. If somebody can think of something good please qoute and comment. DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS GAME. DO NOT LOOK AT THIS GAME. DO NOT EVEN HEAR ABOUT THIS GAME. It's a sin it even exist. Well, that's it! Hope you enjoyed! |
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P.S And about Yoshi. I agree, Wiiware is limited. You basically haven't spent enough time with it Jack. Trust me. I know limited when I see it. You can't make Pikachu look BAD ASS. And I've seen worse (mega man) |