EV/IV Training Discussion Thread

[Alakazamaster]

Originally Posted by Ayunnuya

I can't think of anything to say...

I also caught a shiny Gastly months ago while Special Attack EVing.

[Ayunnuya]

Originally Posted by Alakazamaster

I also caught a shiny Gastly months ago while Special Attack EVing.

Sure hope I do that since I'm EV training in Fire Red Right now.

[Alakazamaster]

Best of luck! Since EV training involves fighting wild Pokemon over and over again I am sure you will have luck!

[Ayunnuya]

Thanks, where do you EV train?

[Alakazamaster]

In Platinum version, here are my spots:

HP: Route 201. 50% rate of Bidoofs works great.
Atk: Grass North of Oreburgh. Machop are common enough here, and at low levels.
Def: Oreburgh Mine. Geodude and Onix are very common here.
Sp. Atk: Old Chateau. 100% Gastly encounter rate is perfection.
Sp. Def: Water north of Sunyshore. Lots of Tentacool and Tentacruel.
Speed: Old Rod. Magikarp galore!

[Ayunnuya]

Originally Posted by Alakazamaster

In Platinum version, here are my spots:

HP: Route 201. 50% rate of Bidoofs works great.
Atk: Grass North of Oreburgh. Machop are common enough here, and at low levels.
Def: Oreburgh Mine. Geodude and Onix are very common here.
Sp. Atk: Old Chateau. 100% Gastly encounter rate is perfection.
Sp. Def: Water north of Sunyshore. Lots of Tentacool and Tentacruel.
Speed: Old Rod. Magikarp galore!

Do you EV train in previous versions?

I don't own any 4th Gen games yet.

[Alakazamaster]

Sadly, I do not. Tender apologies.

[Ayunnuya]

Originally Posted by Alakazamaster

Sadly, I do not. Tender apologies.

Much Appreciated. Do you have to keep track of how many EV's you get?

[Alakazamaster]

If you are aiming for specific EVs, then yes. It is deathly important that you do.

[Ayunnuya]

Originally Posted by Alakazamaster

If you are aiming for specific EVs, then yes. It is deathly important that you do.

Oops, guess my poor gastly may be a bit overworked.

Oh well, this is my first EV trained PKMN

[SK]

I finished training a Pokemon at Lv. 10 today and got it to Lv. 26. after the first 3 E4 members.

Time to get my 3rd gen team ready.. xD

[Ayunnuya]

Originally Posted by SK

I finished training a Pokemon at Lv. 10 today and got it to Lv. 26. after the first 3 E4 members.

Time to get my 3rd gen team ready.. xD

Wait, you can use the EXP. Share?!

[SK]

Well yes, because I finished EV Training.

[Ayunnuya]

Originally Posted by SK

Well yes, because I finished EV Training.

Can you explain, or is it too long of a process to explain?

[SK]

Well basically, my Pokemon has all of the EVs I wanted so it won't hurt to get other EVs. It probably has 300-ish now. Too hard to explain right now but you''d understand later if you gut the hang on it.

[Ayunnuya]

Originally Posted by SK

Well basically, my Pokemon has all of the EVs I wanted so it won't hurt to get other EVs. It probably has 300-ish now. Too hard to explain right now but you''d understand later if you gut the hang on it.

Ok, thanks for the pointers, guys.

[LiteTheIronMan]

Originally Posted by Ayunnuya

Wait, you can use the EXP. Share?!

During EV training, the EXP. Share also shares EVs, so you don't have to use the Pokemon you're training in battle. Once your Pokemon's EVs are maxed, you can fight other Pokemon without worrying about gaining EVs, because you won't gain anymore.

[Alakazamaster]

Originally Posted by LiteTheIronMan

During EV training, the EXP. Share also shares EVs, so you don't have to use the Pokemon you're training in battle. Once your Pokemon's EVs are maxed, you can fight other Pokemon without worrying about gaining EVs, because you won't gain anymore.

Not true. I don't know exactly how it works, but the Pokemon with the Exp. Share will get fewer EVs. I say again, I don't know the calculations, but I know that Pokemon Pokemon dont get equal EVs.

[Sunny]

Originally Posted by Alakazamaster

Not true. I don't know exactly how it works, but the Pokemon with the Exp. Share will get fewer EVs. I say again, I don't know the calculations, but I know that Pokemon Pokemon dont get equal EVs.

Wait thats totally false.
Exp share gives the exact same amount of EVs as long as the pokemon is getting exp. So lets say I switch out ALL my pokemon in my team atleast once on 1 pokemon and then KO it. That means they all get a split of the experience so they all get the full amount of EVs. Trust me i've been using this method for ever.

[Alakazamaster]

Originally Posted by Sunny

Wait thats totally false.
Exp share gives the exact same amount of EVs as long as the pokemon is getting exp. So lets say I switch out ALL my pokemon in my team atleast once on 1 pokemon and then KO it. That means they all get a split of the experience so they all get the full amount of EVs. Trust me i've been using this method for ever.

OH dear! Excuse my stupidty then! I was merely referring to this: http://www.psypokes.com/lab/evguide.php

The Exp. Share is a useful tool for EV-training more than one Pokemon simultaneously. This is because the Exp. Share gives the Pokemon all the base EVs gained from the Pokemon which has been defeated, even if the Pokemon does not take part in the battle. For instance, if a Flygon with a Macho Brace defeats a wild Pidgey, it would gain 2 Speed EVs. Suppose you have a Milotic in your party holding an Exp. Share. The Milotic would gain 1 Speed EV

By the way, I wasn't trying to sound smug up and the top. I really was just thinking of this source in particular and was sure the Exp. Share did not transfer all EVs.

[Sunny]

Im sorry but thats totally false. I've done this numerous times with scizor. They should fix that.

[LiteTheIronMan]

Originally Posted by Sunny

Im sorry but thats totally false. I've done this numerous times with scizor. They should fix that.

Yep. Serebii has a more clarified explanation.

I don't use the Exp. Share method though. I prefer the switch in method.

For unaware readers: Switch in method is when you basically send the Pokemon you want to get the EVs, then switch it out with a different Pokemon. After the battle, both Pokemon get the total EVs.

I find this useful because if I equip a Pokemon with a Power item and PokeRus, then use the switch in method, it still gets the full 10 EVs. If I use the Exp. Share method, then I wouldn't get the 10. Assuming I had PokeRus on the Exp. Share'd Pokemon, that Pokemon would get 5 EVs. (unless I just did my math wrong, but the point is I don't get as many EVs from the Exp. Share method than I do the switch in method.)

If you're going for time, I suppose the Exp. Share method is easier, but you'd have to fight a few more Pokemon than you'd like to, so I use the switch in method.

[Alakazamaster]

I never switch out or use Exp. Share. The Pokemon I fight for EVs are all at reletively low levels, so my Level 1's have trouble at first, but once they level up its not a problem. Sweepers and walls need Speed and HP, respectively, and there are level 2 and 3 Bidoofs for HP, and Magikarp for Speed. I start out on them, and I have gained enough levels to fight either Gastly for Sp.Atk, Machop for Atk, Geodude and Onix for Def. I have yet to train for Sp.Def, oddly enough.

[LiteTheIronMan]

Bump because another thread was made asking about EV's.

[Quadcentruo]

I say this thread should be sticky-ed.

[Yoshi648]

Originally Posted by Quadcentruo

I say this thread should be sticky-ed.

*pours glue on thread*
There, sticky.

[SK]

Originally Posted by Quadcentruo

I say this thread should be sticky-ed.

^

And *not just* because it's my thread.

*coug*maybealittlebit*cough* :3

[Ayunnuya]

Heh, ur funny!

[Quadcentruo]

This may be a little late, but I think this may be helpful:
http://www.serebii.net/games/iv-calcdp.shtml

It's an IV calculator. Just put in the stats, nature, and, if for some reason you already started training it, EV's... as long as you know it.
(My bad! You don't need to put in EV's. Your supposed put in the stats the moment you look at them.)

[Sala]

Originally Posted by Quadcentruo

This may be a little late, but I think this may be helpful:
http://www.serebii.net/games/iv-calcdp.shtml

It's an IV calculator. Just put in the stats, nature, and, if for some reason you already started training it, EV's... as long as you know it.
(My bad! You don't need to put in EV's. Your supposed put in the stats the moment you look at them.)

I like this one more: click


I hate the EVs that Wormadam actually gives, 1 Def and 1 SpD Serebii says it gives 2 SpD...

Someone knows something to make EV training more fun? I got like 1 box full of breeded pokémon and they need EV's.

[Ningamer]

Could I share my favourite HG/SS hotspots here?

HP: Go down to Slowpoke Well and surf on the first patch of water you see. You'll only find Slowpoke, which'll dish out 1 HP EV each.

Atk: Head to Mahogany Town and go west, towards Mt. Mortar. Surf again, on the water in front of the cave. There you'll find Goldeen and Seaking, giving out 1 or 2 Atk EVs respectively.

Def: Go over to Pallet Town and surf just past the fence. The patch of grass there is home to Tangela, who give out one Def EV each. However, every so often (Though they're pretty rare) you'll come across a Mr. Mime, so make sure you run from those.

SpA: Like Quad said, surfing in Ilex Forest is the place to go.

SpD: Find yourself almost any patch of water (The water between Olivine and Cianwood is probably the best). Surf on it. Tentacools will give you 1 SpD EV each, and Tentacruel will give you 2.

Spe: I have two places for this, but one's really for higher-levelled. The first is Diglett Cave, where you'll find Diglett and Dugtrio (Duh). Diglett give out 1 Spe EV, while Dugtrio give out 2. Watch out though, because they might have Arena Trap, stopping you from switching out. I only recommend this place for higher-levelled Pokémon or Flying-types.

The second Speed training spot is a great one. Head on over to the Power Plant in Kanto. The grass outside that is home to Spearow (1 Spe EV), Voltorb (1 Spe EV), Raticate (2 Spe EVs), Fearow (2 Spe EVs), and Electabuzz (2 Spe EVs). However, if you go training there at night you'll come across Quagsire frequently, which give out HP EVs rather than Speed.

And that's what I've got! Good luck!

[SK]

That'll be going in the first post, thanks for the list.

[LiteTheIronMan]

This is a little late but I don't think anyone shared BW Pokemon to EV grind at. (even though it's sort of common knowledge)

Palpitoad- HP (2 points)
Patrat, Lillipup, Pidove- Attack (1 point each)
Roggenrola, Durant- Defense (Roggenrola 1, Durant 2)
Purrloin- Speed (1)
Litwick- Sp. Atk (1)
Gothita (Black Only!), Frillish- Sp.Def (1)

Note- Evolved forms of Patrat, Lillipup, Pidove, and Purlloin will yield 2 points for their stat.

[Armads]

Common knowledge it may be, but doesn't mean I knew it. XD
Thanks for the reference.

[SyracuvatTenlii]

This may have been already said earlier in the thread, but in case it's buried somewhere down there, I'll bring it up.

Pokerus is, as its name may imply, a virus that catches on to Pokemon randomly. It's about as uncommon as Shiny Pokemon (if not, please do clarify). It's contagious, so if one Pokemon on your team catches it, they all do. Even though it's a virus, it's actually a REALLY good thing to have.

Each Pokemon has an EV yield toward each stat, which usually goes at most to 2. HOWEVER, if a Pokemon has Pokerus, each EV they get toward a stat for fainting a certain Pokemon is doubled and contributed toward their stats.

Here's one way to look at it-- Magikarp has 1 Speed EV if memory serves, but if a Pokemon that has Pokerus has it, it will recieve 2 Speed EV instead.

A Pokemon that has pokerus will have a purple PKRS symbol on their stat page. Pokerus will go away if a Pokemon is outside the computer with it after a random amount of time. HOWEVER, the effects will continue to last-- it just can't be transmitted anymore. If you give it to a Pokemon you don't use, though, and keep it in your PC, you can keep the Pokerus available to transmit to other Pokemon indefinitely. It makes a great gift to trade across to your friends if you get it, too!

Another way you'll know about Pokerus is if you have your Pokemon healed at the Pokemon center, then the Nurse begins to inform you about the virus, CHECK YOUR TEAM-- you've probably been infected.

This has actually happened to me TWICE before-- on HeartGold version and Black Version.

It's much easier, btw, to get PKRS on Gen III-V then in II, and it does not exist in Gen I.