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View Poll Results: Should Items Be Allowed? | |||
Yes / Sí / Ja | 9 | 47.37% | |
No / No / Nein | 10 | 52.63% | |
Voters: 19. You may not vote on this poll |
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YAY! Another one! It compensates the fact my Brawl disc broke a year ago and got a new one!
So, all I have to say is this: ADD ONETT. And wouldn't it be more Tournament like if you tested their skills without items? |
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skills =/= items
Derp. :V Its just whoever gets said item first basically. But people were complaining due to the lack of items last time. Im not gonna vote because im strictly IRL tourneys now.(Because its incredibly easy to abuse wifi lag by spamming brick wall attacks like with zelda or lucario and of course Metaknight) but if you people that like items don't get em, try using diddy. Hes considered really good competitively because of his banana shenanigans. =w= Onnets considered illegal because certain characters can do infinites on it. =X As long as no one here knows how to do them though then its all good. =w=b but then again, up to you guys. Oh um, and if any yoshi players are reading this, go green greens! Its probably yoshis best course. He can camp with eggs and U-smash on wifi on that stage. :V Also I think bob-ombs should be banned incase items are allowed. Seriously, how many times have ya been minding your own business when one spawns right on top of you and explodes? X_X EDIT: Oh boy, one more thing. On green greens ALOT of characters can do infinites against the walls. Now, tectonically this is allowed in real competitive tourneys, however your only allowed to do them up until 300%. I'll let you guys decide if infinites are allowed to that point, but honestly I think its incredibly gay. :V Last edited by Sunny; December 5, 2010 at 02:14:15 PM. |
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Yea, actually when green greens was considered legalized, some member of the brawl backroom staff were demodded for legalizing it...or so its rumored thats why they were. But the infinites on the stage heavily favor certain characters...mostly Dedede. :V
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I would very much like to participate in this tourney
And I support no items. Especially no Bob-ombs. Those are [CENSORED] annoying. |
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One last map I oppose is Pokémon Stadium 2. This is due to the stage sometimes having the type of stage being switched to flying or electric. I don't think I have to explain why those two are annoying. I am also strongly opposed to the use of items. If you truly had skill, you wouldn't need to throw a capsule holding a bomb at your opponent. Also, Sonic + Smash Ball = broken. |
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Yay! A tournament I can actually participate in! We should probably hold it on a weekday after most of us are on Christmas break. As for items, if we have any it should be limited to either smash balls or pokeballs on low.
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Tournumate you say? I shall be partcicpating!
..or not... depending on the date... Anyhoo, items you say? Hm..... well, depends on what you want. Just a "casual" tournumate, not all comeptitive, just for fun. Or, super all out omega serious tournumate!It's really up to you. Also, I fail at spelling tournumate. |
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I just noticed that my vote for Yes on Prop Items just made it an even 50-50 between the votes. :I
Leave the items on so that more casual players would be open to participate, but ban items people can come to a general consensus to ban. |
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Here's something we could do- a compromise?(Typo?)
There would be two different tourneys- one for items, one not. The workings would all the same, and then, the two winners from both sides would fight each other, with no items. Would it work? |
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Really?! I was once able to dodge all of his attacks in his super form.
Although, items should be banned from this toruney. I will probably not be in this tourney since I'm better off just finding people online to fight rather then just a (no offense) stupid forum prize. Besides, the fan will totally kill the challenge of a tourney. |
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I'll join
I voted no on items because i find items to be a hassle and a waste of time getting to them just to have no effect. I also agree with Quad on his ideas for the stages to be banned. One more thing; a date needs to be settled because we can get the applicants to verify if that will work or not. If some days don't work, find a day where the most applicants can make it. I for one can't make the 24th, 25th, or 26th. Just letting you know. Last edited by Arceus is Epic; December 9, 2010 at 03:48:33 PM. |
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You see Lite, all that would make sense if you were playing by yourself or your opponent didn't want to attack you. It's kinda hard to dodge stage hazards if you get hit into them.
And about PS2's electric stage, yea there are platforms that don't move, but the treadmills make recovering harder. And the flying stage, it makes heavier characters, such as Ike, a tad over powered because they can knock massive amounts of damage into floating opponents because a lot of their heavier attacks are air attacks, making it much easier to KO opponents on top of making it easier for the heavier characters to recover. And I DO know about the others with a "roaming" Final Smash, in fact, I know a lot of them are over powered. I point out sonic because Sonic's is incredibly fast and very powerful.
Furthered in here
One thing I almost forgot, Rainbow Cruise. I don't mind the fact that it is legal, I just personally hate moving stages. EDIT: Oh yes, the items. Seeing as throwing items that aren't bombs do just about as much knock back as each other, it makes characters who can't do a kill shot easy a little harder to fight against (I talking about characters that are fast, but don't have super strong moves, such as Sonic and Diddy Kong). Last edited by Quadcentruo; December 10, 2010 at 11:12:47 AM. |
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Also, based on poll results, I'm going to have to say that ITEMS ARE BANNED FROM THIS TOURNAMENT. As such, the discussion about items need not go any further, and the first page shall be edited to say such! P.S. You are completely right about Sonic > Pikachu in terms of Final Smash, but I find it a little funny you brought up Mario's less-than-amazing Final Smash that can just be jumped over, haha. |
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I have a suggesstion. Why not have Bridge of Eldin there because it may have a hazard that can push you backwards or even off the screen but that can be avoided easily. It is also a flat stage so no crevices to hide in and take cover under.
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The most balanced level is often considered Smashville, though, because the moving platform balances things out more. |
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Last edited by Arceus is Epic; December 10, 2010 at 07:49:52 PM. |
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Banning characters would be incredibly controversial. We probably won't be banning any characters unless we get a ****-ton of new users from Smashboards for some reason who all just happen to be incredibly anti-Meta Knight. (and if they're Japanese they'll also be anti-Snake, but who keeps track of the international S-tier anyway?)
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Someone can juggle you into the lava on Norfair, hit you onto one of the spikes, missiles, or the piranha plant on Pictochat, throw you into the lazer or bomb on Halbred. The hazards may not do a lot, but they have massive knock back when you have a decent sized damage percent. And the points Lite brings up are NOT spot on because that would mean you aren't being attacked or you are not moving. I don't think any one could win a Brawl match without moving from one spot or not being attacked by their opponent. You can do whatever you want with the legal stages, I just wont like it. |
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I'd like to point out those stages are meant for counterpick. There meant to lean slightly on the haxxy side, but there still perfectly playable. All haxards are easy to avoid unless the opponent manages to get you in them, but its all fair, as your can do the same. I like to grab people when the lazor on halberd comes and wait for it. =p
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As a side question, at what time will this tournament be held? I already know it will take place on the 25th of December, and since it will be during my winter break, I have a good chance of participating, but I need to know the time first.
Last edited by Shadow; December 12, 2010 at 04:29:56 AM. |
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I do not want a reply to this post, this is just a reason why I strongly oppose stages with stage hazards.
The reason I oppose them so much is because all it takes is one lucky hit to change the flow of the match. For example, as I was playing on Pictochat, both me and my opponent were down to their last stock. I thought I had the game in the bag, but I got hit into the piranha plant and that was game. What I'm saying is, those stages are based more on luck - just like what Sunny said. I want this post, to be the last post regarding stage hazards and why they are legal. |
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It actually isn't taking place on December 25th. What with the fact that its Christmas Day, many of our forum-goers will have other things that they have planned. It will likely take place on the 26th, or perhaps a day during the week after the 26th since many people will be on Christmas Vacation.
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My best idea for date would be on the 29th because if people went on vacation, they would be back by Wednesday (29th). As for time, I think the preffered time would be around 3:00 EST. |
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I think that counterpicks are too complicated to worry about for this, and that we should only be allowed to choose the "legal" stages that Zam has provided us with. Over Wi-Fi, it's too difficult for people to say, "Now we're playing on this stage since I lost!" often. Sure, I disagree with some of the stages that Zam allowed, but that really doesn't matter. If I'm put on an "unfair" stage, I'll just deal with it. However, all I know is that I'll be picking Final almost every time, regardless.
Also, the 29th or the 30th are the most reasonable dates to hold this tournament on, in order to allow the most people to be active then. It's better if we have the date up as soon as possible, so people don't make plans on our tournament day. Last edited by Amir; December 14, 2010 at 06:54:49 AM. |
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i hate it cause sometimes i use the slower more powerful characters who can't jump and on that stage they're at an extreme disadvantage |
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Well in a game like Brawl, there will always be characters that have disadvantages on stages, because they are all so different. Rainbow Cruise is a counter-pick stage, meaning that it will only show up if the loser of the last round picks it, but keep in mind that it is very difficult for everything to be flawlessly balanced. Last edited by Alakazamaster; December 14, 2010 at 12:31:39 PM. |
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Oooh really? Omg I totally didn't know that! xD Haha, I was about to agree with amir until I saw that~! That makes it much less complicated~!
Also haaaaiiii banana boy~! Super glad your back for a bit again~! ;3 Ahhh anywho~! About the counterpick system~! Usually both players would choose from a "neutral" stage the first round. The nuetral stages include yoshi's island, final destination, battlefield and smashville~! Oh and in some cases delfino square. Whoever loses the first round is allowed to choose the next stage to play on. It can either be a neutral stage or a counter pick. The final stage to play on if theres a 3rd round is either decided threw stage striking (In this case that would be too complicated, so we'll just have each player choose a stage normally and let the computer decide who gets it to be fair) or countrpicking but i'll let ya be the judge of that. Also you can modify the rules anyway you please to fit the tourney to your liking. Like I can see how some people wouldn't like having to pick neutrals the first round so if you want you can modify that rule and let the computer choose what person gets there stage, but again, up to you~! =w= |
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Take Final Destination. A slow and big character will still have the disadvantage to someone like Falco, who can stand on one side and just keep shooting lasers. The fact is, imbalances will ALWAYS happen, and we can't very well ban all of the stages.
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