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View Poll Results: Which set of rules would you rather go by? | |||
Free battle - level 5 | 10 | 62.50% | |
Fixed level - level 50 all. | 6 | 37.50% | |
Voters: 16. You may not vote on this poll |
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Looks like the makings of a pretty unique tournament. Just be sure that you can get someone who can examine competitors' teams between rounds for hacks if you can't do that well yourself. Best of luck with the tournament!
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Oh boy this sounds exciting! I checked the Little Cup Forums, though, and to them these Pokemon are banned: Meditite, Murkrow, Scyther, Sneasel, Yanma, Tangela. You might want to consider doing the same for this tournament, especially because of Scyther and Sneasel.
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Last edited by Sunny; February 5, 2010 at 02:11:36 PM. |
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I would actually think that Pokemon with no evolutions should be banned, but I'm on the fence for that as well. I mean, things like Heracross, Miltank, Tauros, and others shouldn't be permitted if they don't really have a "baby" form and are already fully evolved. |
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And rule 1 already states that pokemon with no evolution are banned. I'm sticking to that decision. There just too strong. =w= Last edited by Sunny; February 5, 2010 at 04:15:58 PM. |
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I say any pokemon with only one evolve form (ex: Bronzor to Bronzong) should be banned.
They will be slightly more powerful than Pokemon with two evolve forms (Like Bulbasaur to Ivysaur to Venasaur). And i better get working on my team... but my friend has my game... oh darn it *grabs diamond* no... |
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Well, once more details are hammered out Im sure there will be a voting session for the final rules, much like the other tourneys. |
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Still, it should stay at level 50. It would give people the ability to have pokemon that have their ultimate moves (if they are going to train to level 50) and it would allow them to Ev train them as well. |
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The idea of this cup is nice. I think that level 50 must be the level as it gives the people more opportunity to train their Pokemon. Also, I think that we need to go on with all the banned Pokemon of Smogon. They all are stronger than the other baby Pokemon.
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*sigh* How can I explain this to you people? Raising pokemon to level 50 takes more time. I'd have to raise a completely new team. With level 5 you can breed the moves you want for the pokemon onto the pokemon, and give them TMs or Move tutors for anything else. Putting it at level 5o makes things far more difficult. Level 5 IS little battle.
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Anyway, Little Cup rules involve Pokemon at lvl. 5, so breeding plays a massive role to get the right moves. Yes, there IS a level 50 option, but if I recall correctly there is also an "Anything Goes" kind of option where pokemon levels are kept where they are. This could either be a little cup tourney, with level 5's, or just a level 50 tournament using pokemon in their smallest stage. Maybe it will be put to a vote?
Last edited by Alakazamaster; February 6, 2010 at 08:28:43 AM. |
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I really, really like this idea, as it is unique and offers many common Pokémon to be put into play. Thumbs up for that.
As to the rules, here's my opinion: Quote:
Each person must choose: a) ONLY TWO of the following: The OU Pokémon of the NFE tier:
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b) ONLY TWO of the following: The BL of the NFE tier:
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c) ONLY TWO of the following: The UU/NU of the NFE tier:
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I deeply believe this is the best option to avoid inequalities, cheating and whatnot. However, I'm not saying this has to be followed. It depends on the hosts of the tournament and the participants' opinions, and whether they agree or not. Quote:
So it doesn't matter to what level you will raise them in your game, since they will be automatically changed to "Level 50 All". Last edited by Shadow; February 6, 2010 at 09:26:26 AM. |
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EDIT: It also is a useful way to make all teams relatively equal, since EV training would be quite difficult. Last edited by Shadow; February 6, 2010 at 09:26:56 AM. |
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Aww yes, the item thing is only there because its a standard rule in most tournament. I just don't wanna see focus sashes and leftovers on every single pokemon. Buuuut I guess I could trust people not to go TO crazy with those items. =w= And ill add those other rules up to.
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*sigh* Look, I think we should make this a proper Little battle. Based on the breeding ability of the trainers. If we don't want to do that, then fine, but can we try to make it even for the people who DON'T want to have to raise a new team to level 50?
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But I have no problem either way, so I'll leave this issue for you guys to decide. |
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You do not raise the pokemon to level 50. Please double check my response to you're previous post. Their is an option that allows it to be a fixed level of either 50 or 100. There is no "level 5 all". Setting the options in to "level 50 all" will automatically make the pokemon you're using level 50 whether its level 1 or level 100.
Last edited by Sunny; February 6, 2010 at 09:20:20 AM. |
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look, if we let second stage pokemon into the tourny and let pokemon be leveled to any level they want, they will be more powerful than the pokemon that were bred and kept at level 5. With EVs having two pokemon at level 50 won't make them equal. And if we let second stage pokemon in, they will be more powerful. I just personally think we should go by little battle rules, As I enjoy little battle.
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Ok things seem a bit jumbled so, if I may, I have made a little something to lower the confusion.
CLASSIC LITTLE BATTLE: -Pokemon in their lowest evolution forms are used. -All Pokemon are Level 5. -"Free Battle" mode would be chosen, and both Trainers would have Pokemon EXCLUSIVELY at Level 5. -EV training is very difficult when Level 5 is the limit, so it would be easier to make a team and have battlers moderately equal. -Breeding Pokemon and using TMs are the methods to get good moves on these Pokemon. NOT FULLY EVOLVED BATTLE- -Pokemon in their lowest evolution forms are used. -The "Level 50" battle option is chosen, but these Pokemon could normally be at any level. -EV training is now an option. -Pokemon can now use any move let get by level up, making much breeding worthless (sans getting Egg moves) EITHER ONE- -Lowest evolutions are used. -Two Pokemon from each Tiers must be used (OU, BL, and UU/NU) -Pokemon that do not evolve are banned. -Tangela, Scyther, Sneasel, Yanma, Murkrow, and Meditite are banned. These are the two battles being debated over, I hope this helps! Last edited by Alakazamaster; February 6, 2010 at 09:39:51 AM. |
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Ok, the tournament doesn't say "Little battle", it says "Not fully evolved" or "NFE". If sunny wanted to have a little battle tournament, this topic would say "Little battle pokemon tournament - Discussion" but it doesn't say that so no. It should stay at level 50. And thank Nintendo for putting an option on wi-fi to automatically raise your pokemon to level 50 for that battle so you DON'T HAVE TO raise your pokemon. EDIT: and plus i think it would cause more trouble trying to have everyone have all their pokemon at level 5, people from youtube or some random place may not read these rules and just go off on their own little world and have pokemon that are level 30 or something Last edited by Quadcentruo; February 6, 2010 at 12:26:21 PM. |
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Well, here. Make it so that Lv. 1-5 is the restriction, even though the game will force-cap it to Lv. 50. That way, people won't be freaking out about teams.
Seriously, I wouldn't enjoy EV training my little baybee Pokemon to Lv. 50. It probably wouldn't even done properly, I'd have to either keep pressing B or hold an Everstone. |
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But still, this isn't a little cup tournament. And having Pokemon at level 5 and below would make the stats incredibly low. I still say the pokemon should be fixed to level 50 on wi-fi |
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Needless to say I support the idea of all Lvl. 5's ^_^ |
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This is true. It is alot more moveset based rather then stat based. I've played the little cup tourney before and ice punched my way to victory with a sneasel. =w=
I'll leave the pull up for 1-2 more days. Don't wanna wait too long to decide. ... *is still sad sneasel is banned. ;~;* |
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Enough of the common OU battles. If you think you are a strong Pokémon trainer, you shouldn't have a problem adapting to different conditions, styles and whatnot. I never really experienced such a tournament before, but it will surely widen my usage of Pokémon, make me develop new strategies, and will give me a better overview of the less common tiers. |
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You can use level fives. The online battle system just rounds them to 50. But, if you use level fives, YOU WILL LOSE THIS TOURNAMENT!
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#58
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Correction. The online battle system can round to 50, doesn't have to (thats why people use a FEAR Rattata - Rattata at level 2 with focus sash, uses endeavor and finishes with quick attack)
And shadow, I accept your challenge! But i would still like a level 50 more than level 5 tournament |
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Well, I've been convinced enough. =w=
Level 5 it is. Aww also, I will allow more then 2 NU/UUs and BL. However you may still only use 2 OUs. (Now just to figure out how to close the poll. .-.) Last edited by Sunny; February 7, 2010 at 02:31:39 PM. |
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1. 3 Pokemon Only. Makes it quick and smooth
2. Level 5 and below. Need I say more 3. No legendaries. 4. No One Hit KO moves 5. Please, keep it simple enough for my poke-ball sized brain to understand A Level 50 would ruin the 'Little Cup" purpose and wouldn't be a little cup. |
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And BL tier has been moved up to 4, UU/NU tiers is now unlimited, and sableye and farfetch'd are now allowed. (OU tier though) Quote:
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Why is he banned? Why not! XD
On non-pun related topic, Are we only letting in Fartetch'd and Sableye? They're the only pokemon I would use anyway, but if somebody requests a pokemon that fits, we should probably evaluate it. |
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Mm yea maybe I shouldn't. Waaah im fickle. I just kinda wish pokemon like farfetch'd actually get a chance to fight ya know? =w= But...yea if I let a few in, a ton of request will be pouring in soon enough. Sorry sable.
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Oh! Big time news! I believe there is another something that should be banned...
DeepSeaTooth. This doubles Clamperl's special attack to a MONSTROUS 36, which lets it shred through teams easily. Even Munchlax, the top dog when it comes to special wallking, is 2HKOd. DeepSeaScale is OK though, since it doesn't make it a vicious sweeper. |
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Under no circumstances Mawile. It can be really vicious with Swords Dance + Sucker Punch, preventing most anything from getting a hit. Once again, this is Little Cup, not "kinda weak Pokemon, so maybe we should let in specific ones that don't evolve-cup."
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Hmm maybe sometime later we'll have a NU pokemon tournament for those pokemon. =w= EDIT: My rule list is starting to get huge. .-. Might have to edit a few of the obvious rules out. Last edited by Sunny; February 8, 2010 at 09:42:41 PM. |
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Naaaah I thought of freeze clause but its really not that important.
The odds of getting 1 freeze is 1/10. So the average of 2 freezes (Non-consecutively) is 20 moves that induce ice attacks. And even at that its still luck based and can go over 20 attempts. Don't worry I won't add it. The rule list is already large enough. =w= |
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Okay! So far, this looks like a good tourney! I wish I could co-host with some others. If someone hasn't already volunteered for the team checking, I can do that. So, good luck with the tourney! BTW, I can help you on any tourney needs.
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