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Old January 17, 2010, 05:28:58 AM
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Here is my awesome team (starting with lead)

Aerodactyl w/ Focus sash
Pressure
Jolly
(evs) 252 speed 252 attack 6Hp
-Stealth Rock, Taunt, Earthquake, Rock slide

Umbreon w/ Leftovers
Synchronize
Sassy
(0 speed iv) 252 HP 200 attack 56 special defense
-Curse, Payback, Wish, Baton Pass

Machamp w/ Leftovers
No Guard
Adamant
252 HP 128 attack 128 speed
-Bulk up, Dynamic Punch, Ice Punch, Thunder Punch

Metagross w/ Leftovers
Clear Body
Adamant
112 HP 252 Attack 12 Defense 132 Speed
-Agility, Meteor Mash, Earthquake, Explosion

Kingdra w/ Life Orb
Swift Swim
Naughty
252 Attack 80 Special attack 176 Speed
-Dragon Dance, Waterfall, Outrage, Yawn

Jolteon w/ Life Orb
Volt absorb
Timid
6 Defense 252 Special attack 252 Speed
-Charge Beam, Thunderbolt, Hidden Power Ice(?), Shadow Ball

Fun fact: i once swept my friends team with my Machamp after two bulk ups
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Old January 17, 2010, 05:44:27 AM
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The team looks pretty solid to me, and so I have no comments for now. If I find any flaws in it later on, I'll post them here.
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Old January 17, 2010, 07:10:43 AM
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Why does jolteon have charge beam AND thunderbolt? You might want to replace that one.
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Old January 17, 2010, 07:11:50 AM
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Why does jolteon have charge beam AND thunderbolt? You might want to replace that one.
jolteon is a sweeper, Charge beam is to raise special attack and thunder bolt to bring pain
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Old January 17, 2010, 07:17:38 AM
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I still feel he'd be better with something else. Charge beam only sometimes raises special attack and is fairly weak. Maybe fake tears?
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Old January 17, 2010, 08:43:06 AM
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Dynamic Punch isn't a really good move because of it's low accuracy, focus punch might be better.

Also if you're going to use the charge beam/thunderbolt combo you should probably get another special attacker and replace hidden power with baton pass and maybe give it agility other then tht you're fine.
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Old January 17, 2010, 09:56:51 AM
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Dynamic Punch isn't a really good move because of it's low accuracy, focus punch might be better.
True, dynamic punch does have low accuracy, but machamp has no guard so everything move will hit machamp and every move machamp uses will hit
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Old January 18, 2010, 01:06:54 PM
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I think you need a sturdier sweeper than Jolteon. After Aerodactyl is out of the way, Zapdos will eat you team alive. Heat Wave, Thunderbolt, and Drill Peck = Doom to Jolteon, Machamp, Metagross and Kingdra.

I'd use Raikou instead of Jolteon, since Raikou can take a hit and has the speed to back it up. Calm Mind Raikou is a pain to beat.
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Old January 18, 2010, 05:34:15 PM
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Calm Mind Raikou is a pain to beat.
ever try beating a calm mind latias? Tougher than Raikou by alot.

*thinks a little*
why don't i just use calm mind Latias?
*other half of self* cause jolteon is awesome
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Old January 19, 2010, 05:13:03 PM
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Yeaaa, don't be a nub and use Latias. No offense to the people that do, but that things overused beyond belief. Gotta go with pokes ya like the most, ya know? =w=
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Old January 20, 2010, 02:54:12 AM
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Yeaaa, don't be a nub and use Latias. No offense to the people that do, but that things overused beyond belief. Gotta go with pokes ya like the most, ya know? =w=
Agreed. Latias is for nubs.
I think this team could easily take down any latias
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Old January 20, 2010, 05:57:39 AM
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Here is my awesome team (starting with lead)

Aerodactyl w/ Focus sash
Pressure
Jolly
(evs) 252 speed 252 attack 4Hp
-Stealth Rock, Taunt, Earthquake, Rock slide

Umbreon w/ Leftovers
Synchronize
Sassy
(0 speed iv) 252 HP 200 attack 56 special defense
-Curse, Payback, Wish, Baton Pass

Machamp w/ Leftovers
No Guard
Adamant
252 HP 128 attack 128 speed
-Bulk up, Dynamic Punch, Stone Edge, Thunder Punch

Stone Edge is more powerful.

Metagross w/ Leftovers
Clear Body
Adamant
112 HP 252 Attack 12 Defense 132 Speed
-Agility, Meteor Mash, Earthquake, Bullet Punch

Why do you want to kill your Pokemon so fast? Meteor Mash in the first turn and then Bullet Punch. This owns.

Kingdra w/ Life Orb
Swift Swim
Naughty
252 Attack 80 Special attack 176 Speed
-Dragon Dance, Waterfall, Outrage, Yawn

Jolteon w/ Life Orb
Volt absorb
Timid
6 Defense 252 Special attack 252 Speed
-Substitute, Thunderbolt, Hidden Power Ice(?), Agility

SubAgility is a very good combination. Along with HP ice and TB, your Pokemon will be amazing.

Fun fact: i once swept my friends team with my Machamp after two bulk ups
Changes are in bold.
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Old January 20, 2010, 07:32:53 AM
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@The spirit of time

Why would Jolteon need any more speed unless its baton passing? Its already quicker then a weavile and as quick as Aerodactyle. Only normal poke that can outspeed it is a ninjask. Also subsitute on jolteon is soooooo predictable. Trust me on this. Every jolteon I battle, I expect subsitute. Its very very predictable on jolteon. You can thank smogon for that. >3>

As for metagross, isn't the agility there too outspeed others anyway?
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Old January 20, 2010, 09:10:06 AM
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@The spirit of time

Why would Jolteon need any more speed unless its baton passing? Its already quicker then a weavile and as quick as Aerodactyle. Only normal poke that can outspeed it is a ninjask. Also subsitute on jolteon is soooooo predictable. Trust me on this. Every jolteon I battle, I expect subsitute. Its very very predictable on jolteon. You can thank smogon for that. >3>
You couldn't be more true.
Agility will raise Jolteon's already sky-high speed. No Pokémon that I know of from the tiers (till OU) has a base speed of more than 130, save Ninjask. Therefore, I really don't think you should run Agility on Jolteon, as if you invest 252 Speed EVs into it, it would be enough. This will make Jolteon's speed outstanding.

Secondly, as stated, Substitute on Jolteon has become such a very common set in the metagame that it's almost guaranteed you find one with this move. Therefore, I strongly recommend not putting it on the set.

The SubAgility combination works best with a Baton Passing team, and since you don't have one, I say don't use this combination.

Last edited by Shadow; January 20, 2010 at 09:15:02 AM.
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Old January 20, 2010, 10:58:22 AM
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Changes are in bold.
Although Bullet Punch would be good for a fast rock type (Aerodactyl), its pretty weak compared to Meteor Mash, and plus explosion is for when Metagross is about to faint

Why a subagility Jolteon? It has low enough health as it is and it speed is fine

Yes i know stone edge is more powerful, but what will i do if a grass type comes in?

Also, if you think other wise, battle me and see how it works out


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The SubAgility combination works best with a Baton Passing team, and since you don't have one, I say don't use this combination.
I've tried a Baton Passing team... well...
Record: 0-9
Now Record: 8-12 (i had many terrible teams before this)

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Old January 25, 2010, 01:58:50 PM
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Very Balanced team, well put together can't find any flaws in it, any death fatal problems that is
 
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