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For now, all I prefer to say regarding projects is that Mario Minus World is going to be revived as a purely database-driven website, and there will be a new project titled "VRAC." There will also be a staff reform soon. Any ideas at all, drop a message on the forum suggestions thread or create a new thread on that board. For chat ideas, view this thread: http://victoryroad.net/showthread.php?t=9168 |
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VR needs more friendly staff members that are more down to earth instead of people always watching others as it feels like for me, have the staff be like an ordinary Joe, like me.
Calm, rational, fun-loving. you know stuff that makes people like other people. |
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Y'know, from what I've seen as a staff member, I feel like we've always been friendly and fun around the forum, while still keeping within the rules for the most part. If you go look at some other forums, moderators barely interact at all with the community other than notifying someone that they broke the rules and correcting them. Staff members here aren't afraid to post around or say "Hi" on the chat.
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Anyways I hope these new projects bring more users. |
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Wow, I've noticed that my post has quite a bit of criticism.
Let me just say-- What I did NOT want by what I said was a bunch of staff members saying "Hi! Welcome to VR!", because that kind of generic greeting is exactly what I got from an administrator of a different forum I tried joining awhile back. Needless to say, I haven't even thought about looking at it. Yeah, I did become to that forum one of those people that VR now has a lot of-- an Unown. I understand that there are a lot of new people to handle, but there isn't just one staff member! And you say that it would be difficult to say hello to everyone, but I've yet to see that sort of message come from any staff member except one: JC! Yeah, he sent me a VM explaining something to me on my first day here that was actually relevant. What I'm trying to say is that the staff could make more of an effort to make new members feel welcome, but forgive me if I'm making any inaccurate judgments. I just think the first hour someone jumps onto a forum is the most important, or else they feel like the forum is just to big for them to get noticed. Wall of text yay...? |
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But in terms of your suggestion to send a PM to any new member, I think and I hope Cat sees this post, we can easily make Victini Bot carries such a duty, but setting a standard message which can be sent to any joining member. This message can include a very welcoming notice, along with the rules and people to contact if they are having any trouble. Certain links of the projects of VR can also be included. |
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the thing is, some sort of message is fine, but WE have enough staff to compensate, it's not like your the only staff member on VR. because you see it as a big job, you should also see that if you get exhausted have another staff member take over. What I'm saying is, I would do it for the enjoyment of new members, and I'm not even staff anymore... in another words, stop being selfish and ask other staff to help you or do shifts on making members feeling welcomed, VR will always be a community that has 100+ members, if members don't feel welcomed... |
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Well, before this escalates any further, we don't take "shifts" welcoming new members, JC, and you're aware of that. We welcome as many as we're able to. Delegating the task as a responsibility would make it too obligatory and monotonous, and so it'd become even more emotionless and robotic than it may apparently already seem. Granted, I'm all for being more welcoming, and I'm sure everyone else is as well. It's just not seen as being as much of a must as something which we do simply for the kindness of the gesture.
On a side note, asserting your opinions is fine (hence the ability to discuss things in threads and what not), but I wouldn't say anyone here views you as a pushover. I personally hold your opinion in fairly high regard, having known you for a decent amount of time now. By all means, you can "prove yourself" if you feel like it, though there is a difference between insults and criticism. I'll cut the rant short here to avoid sounding overbearing, I suppose. |
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Aside form what Aura said, if this is your main problem, not feeling motivated around here, then you should discuss it openly and state your opinion about that matter, rather than belying your intentions by saying that we are not welcoming enough to new members as an excuse. Furthermore, if you feel insulted, then go and complain to those whom you think are insulting you, instead of directing your complaints at me, despite the fact that I rarely interact with you in the first place...
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Original request: A more friendly approach to new members.
Subsequent arguments: Exhaustive, time-consuming, impractical (and thread taking a slightly negative approach). My reaction: Seriously? I don't understand why the hell the people above me are making a big deal out of nothing. The suggestion is simply meant to make new members interested in the forums a bit more, and even though it wasn't expressed in the best possible way, I do see a point behind it. The thing we need over here is a compromise solution; something that will take ideas/arguments from both ends and satisfy everyone. How about this? Sending personalized PMs to each and every member might be a little difficult, so perhaps we could create a template which can be slightly edited in order to make members feel more welcome. I'm sure a copy-paste with few changes here and there won't take a lot of time. However, with that in mind, I'm still not entirely convinced of the idea, since it can be considered a repeat of the introduction thread. Nevertheless, I don't see the harm in trying out a minor suggestion like this. Quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now, on a different note, I REALLY believe tournaments should be resumed ASAP. Remember the golden days when we used to have an influx of new members every time we started a tournament? Yeah, we could really use one of these right now. A new theme, perhaps to coincide with Halloween/Christmas, wouldn't hurt either, and we definitely need to restore interest in once-active parts of the forums (mainly the VRGL for me, which I apologize for neglecting due to school burdens). To be honest, we're missing few (new) things/ideas to kick-start the activity on VR, but for the most part, the staff members primarily and the normal members in general have to utilize the numerous projects and sections which we already have. Last edited by Shadow; October 10, 2011 at 10:03:36 AM. |
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I think we're missing out on what it means to feel welcome. The feeling of being welcome, the sense of belonging, is achieved through communicating with friendly people that treat you with respect... continually. Not just when you enter for the first time. Not just through an unconditional "Welcome to X I hope you enjoy it here." The newcomer has to witness sincerity, consideration, and appreciation every which way they look. And it shouldn't just be directed at them, it should be present between others. The assurance we aim to provide can be nullified by fights happening around the corner. A new member can decide the place isn't for them just by lurking and seeing how people treat each other.
We can welcome members all we want in their intro threads, VMs, or PMs, but the welcome factor we suggest in such messages truly manifests only through our behavior in every part of the forum (and chat) to every member. Last edited by PokeRemixStudio; October 11, 2011 at 12:46:42 AM. |
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PRS just won the internet, people. Seriously, someone needs to inscribe that in a gold plaque. As far as the staff goes with the reform, I think they should be chosen based on what PRS just said: sincerity, consideration, and appreciation, along with presentability, respectability, and amiability. |
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Frankly, I've never really thought about the arcade much or even used it, but I must admit that it does make a nice distraction when you're bored. That was another of those things that was Freeze's idea. Half the time I forget it's even there. However, I'll continue to support it as long as people do want it to still be up.
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Even though I'm on VR for a pretty short time, I think I'm also getting excited on this site reformation. I wonder what good could come out of this? |
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We'll know what exactly happens when the reformation is done, huh? |
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Also, what's this about a staff reform? |
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Hmm...interesting. We've been through site reformation like this before, and sometimes, that came out especially chaotic. Especially when we were switching servers, it took a good 2 weeks before the errors stopped popping up. I'm guessing this change isn't as totally drastic, so I'm hoping for lack of the server being annoying and causing us all to wait 6 hours for the site to come back on.
As for staff reformation, that should be pretty interesting. And I'm also eagerly anticipating VRAC, I wonder how that will function. |
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I think the VRAC is also part of the site reformation...
I'm willing to bet that the reformation will go as smooth as possible, as long as everything is handled properly. This isn't a server switch or forum software upgrade, so it should be smoother. |
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Chat (but has been proven untrue for that.) Arcade (But Cat said he actually forgot we had one.) Adoptables (one of the most possible with the crash of it and the leave of Freeze.) Animal Crossing (But so many people said that it got not funny the second time.) Accounts Art. Basically anything you slap before center. |
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Hmm... I wonder when this reformation will start? |
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![]() Right now, the progress is minimal (at least on a staff-wide scale). However, I do believe that when holidays start to kick in, we will begin working to improve all the sections of the forums. Personally, I already have prepared 85% of the promised changes to the Victory Road Gym League. I'm hoping that these will be refreshing enough for all members to enjoy, but one particular member who's helping me out still needs to finalize something I asked him to do. When that's done, I'll introduce the new system at the most appropriate time, so you can expect something to pop up soon. Last edited by Shadow; October 18, 2011 at 07:50:19 AM. |
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I think all this work might start after a few more weeks. Or something close to it. What's this new system you're talking about? I'm interested. |
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Mario Minus World was my first website, which I intended to be a site that was going to host lots of game-related material but didn't really meet my expectations. With increased knowledge of databases, it's a bit more doable now. Yes, it is separate from VR.
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Yes, most definitely, it will be part of the VR Network, which I will try to emphasize more in the future. (Many people don't even know we have an oekaki, which I mostly programmed myself beyond the applets.) I may even use the VR account table to setup a user-based submission system to add (moderated, of course) content.
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The portal still is not even designed. VRAC and MMW already have a layout (not necessarily a color scheme yet) and are somewhat functional. MMW reads from the database and generates game lists based on the currently selected console. I cannot give details on VRAC yet. VRIM Desktop has a pseudo-layout together (with little functional code), but it may be scrapped. The new version is still all terminal-based. Maybe if I get bored, I'll release a terminal version for those feeling nostalgic.
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The database... I think it's been implemented since who knows how long... I'm not sure whether I'm a terminal person myself. |
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![]() That complete lie aside, I would love to see Mario Minus World be re-opened again, I've heard some things about it. And I'm dying to hear what VRAC would be like, all sounds pretty good. |