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View Poll Results: Should the Item Clause be placed into effect? | |||
Yes, leave Item Clause up | 3 | 42.86% | |
No, take down Item Clause | 3 | 42.86% | |
Allow Item Clause, but modify it (Specify said modifications in a post.) | 1 | 14.29% | |
Voters: 7. You may not vote on this poll |
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My opinion on the basic clauses:
Uber: Well duh. He said this would be in effect. OHKO: Most likely. Yeah, they have a low accuracy, but they're still OHKO moves. BlissSkarm: Again, this will probably be in too, due to it being an Uber set and all. Species: I'm sort of 50/50 on this. There are some that I would object to, and some that I would say, "Sure, put 6 of them on your team. Good luck noob". Example for what I would NOT allow 6 of on a team are Kecleon and Wobbuffet. Pretty much everything else I wouldn't object to. NFE: If you can get a level 50 NFE with good moves and stats without hacking, be my guest to use them. Evasion: YES. HELL YES. Sleep: Yeah, kind of annoying for the opp if he has 1/3 of his team sleeping. Item: Yurp. But only one of any item per team except Berries. Selfdestruct: Yes. It's a dick move if you Selfdestruct and kill the opp's last Pokémon, and you have your last as well. Rotom: Does not exist in this game, so no. |
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Huuuh? Latios is uber btw even without soul dew. Its quick, has awesome moves (DRACO METEOR AHHH) special bulky, is able to buff up calm minds, and restore health with "restore".
Basically the same as latias only with a stronger special attack and less sp.def. I'll let it be up to you if hes in or not, but he is uber for a reason. |
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Last edited by Shadow; April 3, 2010 at 07:59:44 AM. |
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Oh boy, another tourney to EV train for! I think that Latios should be banned, much like Sunny said, because he is still considered Ubers, unlike Latias. Salamence should also be considered Limit-One as well, since he still still a Pseudo-Legendary just like Metagross. Plus, he has Intimidate, which is vicious in double battles. This is just my opinion, but still, a team of Latios and Salamence could be pretty powerful.
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Shadow, I took your reasoning into account and modified the Item Clause here so that you can use two similar items. Example: Leftovers and Shell Bell. They both heal your Pokemon, just under different circumstances. I made it a little bit more lenient so that things like that will fly.
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*Goes to check Smogon* Oh yes, you are right. In this case, it is banned already, since it is considered in the Uber clause. EDIT: Oddly, the Uber clause is not mentioned among the clauses in Lite's post. I think this is because he already banned the last 5 Pokémon in the Hoenn Pokédex, which are the Uber ones. Anyways, in conclusion, those are the Pokémon that should be banned: -Latios -Kyogre -Groudon -Rayquaza -Jirachi (It is not in the Uber tier, but it still pretty powerful compared to the rest of the Hoenn Pokémon) -Deoxys Last edited by Shadow; April 3, 2010 at 11:01:04 AM. |
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So then. Salamence will be added to the limit one column, and Latios in the ban list. EDIT: I changed the rules around. Latios is now included in the ban list. Salamence is now in Limit One. Latias remains in Limit One, but a Latias with Soul Dew is illegal. Last edited by LiteTheIronMan; April 3, 2010 at 11:45:07 AM. |
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Either way, the starters don't really need to go into the Limit One list. |
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Its because people liek mudkipz. :V
But naw, his typing is awesome for a defensive poke, and being able to take hits, set up stealth rock and roar is pretty good~! He also has the highest base stats of all the starters~! .. And hes awesome. >w< |
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I'm just going to go out and say it. I still don't support the Item Clause, much like Shadow.
I never really understood why this thing was put into place, because it can really ruin lots of strategies, say having more than one Pokemon that can stay in with Leftovers. I think that this should be put up to a vote, because during the last tourney, it was hard to distribute good items, especially for Pokemon that filled similar roles on a team. This is just my opinion though. |
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You know what? I'm just going to make a new topic with the poll. If an admin comes by, I ask that you fix the poll so that you can vote multiple times. For now though, vote in the new topic. All other discussion about rules goes here.
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Update: After some delegation with Cat and Ditto, we've decided that two new rules will be added:
1. Slaking will be placed in Limit One. 2. The doubles technique involving having a Pokemon use Skill Swap on a Slaking has been banned. This was actually really tough. We had talked about it with a few people and they passed it as ridiculous, and I must admit it is a little, but at the same time we can't leave anything at an unfair advantage. |
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Hes NU for a reason. :V Wasting every other turn ain't that fun. Last edited by Sunny; April 11, 2010 at 06:52:46 PM. |
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Yeah, you're right.
... ... ... This is one of the weirdest things I've ever come across. Alright, I'll remove Slaking from Limit One. The moveset is still banned, because people can still get creative with it and find ways to make it work. EDIT: Well, I found a way for them to make it work... Instead of Skill Swapping, they can use Gastro Acid to cancel Truant out ALTOGETHER, so instead of having a Truant Pokemon still on the team, both Pokemon remain relatively the same except for the now-active Slaking. I'm adding Gastro Acid to this rule. It makes much more sense to ban this as opposed to Skill Swap. Last edited by LiteTheIronMan; April 11, 2010 at 07:10:13 PM. |