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Old November 30, 2014, 09:38:24 AM
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Pretty much, the main reason I got into Triples in BW in the first place was that I like to be able to use all 6 of the Pokémon on my team in random matchup instead of the 3 for singles and 4 for doubles.
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How many times can you do anything before it gets boring and typical?

They follow those rules to a T for a reason any sensible person would: because they work. Even with the movesets. A meringue is made by whipping egg whites, and until people want to find another more interesting or more effective way of making a meringue they'll keep whipping egg whites. I'll admit that when I don't know what direction to go with when making a Pokémon I consult Smogon for some guidance. I don't follow it to a T, I still like having some creativity, but even those who do still have to put in work to get up there. And if they beat me, I wouldn't laugh at them for using some cookie cutter team, I could only do that if I prove myself better. It's like making a terrible paper airplane but still parading around because you didn't print yours from an online template.

And, continuing use of metaphor, there's nothing wrong with using a cookie cutter if you're afraid of making horridly ugly cookies. You just can't pass it off as your own invention. (Again, hypocritical because I even criticize people for using cookie cutters and box cake.)
Thank you Turt. Could nto have said it better myself.
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I'm a fan of Doubles myself, only because certain tricks that are common in Singles just don't fly in Doubles, and prediction is paramount when there are two possible Pokémon that can be attacked. Triples make that even more hectic, but a few particular moves (Tailwind) are broken in Triples.
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I swear, they ban anything, they should ban Cresselia from Triples. Even with no attacking moves it's probably the only reason I ever win with things like Yanmega and Gallade against Ubers.
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I missed my opportunity to respond with this:



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Which, by the way, is the entire reason this debate exists. 
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Which, by the way, is the entire reason this debate exists. 
Turt wasnt wrong though... He made a very good point. No one agrees with every decosion or rule that Smogon makes. However, a lot are quick to completely bash it when they do not even know a great deal about it. Whether you like it or not, Smogon has the intention of providing order to competitive battling. If you don't like them, you do not have to play by their rules. Hearing everyone constantly bash them for the same reasons gets old.
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Nah, I'm just bashing them to be Devil's Advocate here. I just get tired of hearing folks treat Smogon as a holy deity.
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Who on Earth does that??? Even die-hard Smogon players disagree with a lot of Smogon's bans/policies/rules.
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Most people who actually know what's going on and follow the news and stuff disagree with Smogon somewhere or another. Some people think PranksterSwagger ban is dumb, some people think they should do something about, idk, Aegislash. I highly doubt even their inner circle agree on everything all the time.

Following anything blindly is a really, really bad idea unless you really know what's going on.
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Plus they ban stuff before the cartridge players get the chance to try it out ourselfs. I bet if they actually tryed making a team on cartridge, they would see how wrong they are most the time.
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Plus they ban stuff before the cartridge players get the chance to try it out ourselfs. I bet if they actually tryed making a team on cartridge, they would see how wrong they are most the time.
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I knew it'd be OP, but I was thinking it would have a stone of it's own. Didn't know you could slap a Life Orb or whatever on that sucker.

I don't really have an opinion yet. Haven't read about it. I don't see why there's another tier about it. Why not just ban Dragon Ascent Rayquaza instead of creating a tier on it's own? Meh.
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I think I'm going to duck out of this thread because I've caused a fair bit of grief.
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I think I'm going to duck out of this thread because I've caused a fair bit of grief.
Yeahhhhhh i didnt execpt this thread to that far into detail.
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Figured I'd partially bump this since Greninja is being suspected by Smogon. From my own experience, Scarf Greninja is freaking monster. I can't send anything out guaranteed save Blissey/Chansey or whatever SpDef wall you have. I can handle Life Orb Greninja easy. No problems. But once my own scarfer can't scare it away, I get into problems. I dunno about banning it, but is it centralizing the metagame? Yeah, I think so. Unless you're hyper-offensive priorty freak, Scarf Greninja will probably take your team down. It's coverage with Gunk Shot is like, Godly. Lol.

Edit: In honesty, if Steel didn't lose resistance to Dark, it'd probably be easier to check it. But then Metagross and Aegislash would be that much stronger. Gah!
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