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Of course hunting is pretty much necessary for humans to survive in present times, but the way we go about it is wrong. I really don't think shooting an innocent creature is being "humane." People were given increased knowledge over other creatures, so we should use it instead of mindlessly killing off living things.
I think that hunting for sport should NOT be permissible. Doing such is sort of like spraying graffiti on a wall. It's only purpose is to harm others for one's own short lived pleasure. Honestly, there are better ways to spend your time that would be more pleasurable and more productive than taking the precious life of something. |
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Well there is a saying: "there is always a hunter and always a prey" it is true it is in our nature to kill FOR FOOD. I don't agree with people who just kill animals helples or not, just for there fur, I hate those hunters who kill just for the fur. mostly they are illigal persons working. back: loins kill zebras for food, they eat the grassy remains from the stumoch BUT they cant live from grass alone they will need meat to survive did you think about that neo?
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When we were cavemen we hunted animals, why can't we now? It's human nature to hunt for food, and we need meat for protein. Those vegetarian-friends protein foods are great, but it's normal for one species to hunt another. You don't go around stopping bears eating rabbits, do you?
Hunting for a game though, that's just cruel. 'Nuff said. |
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Here's what I "believe."
Survival of the fittest *****es. Survival of the fittest. Its life, you've got to take one away to help yourself. That's the way it should be, regardless of how immoral or "evil" it might sound, but it really pays off. If I see an innocent rabbit in the forest, and I am like starving and ran out of food but I've got a knife, will I starve myself to death? Hell no. I'm gonna catch that rabbit and kill it, then roast it up and make me some rabbit soup. This is the same concept animals do, and we're the closest thing to animals, so we do the same too. |
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We're mammals, so it counts too.;P I thought reptilians are the smartest. Quote:
You just gotta face the fact your gonna die if you don't nom on that chicken over there no matter how sick it might sound. Actually, its not sick at all. We've been doing this for years and we're learning from the animals. Ever since we were cavemen and women. |
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Should we eat animals?
*bad dr.suess pun*
So, heres a nice little debatable topic. do you think animals should be eaten? personally I think if we werent supposed to eat them we phisically wouldent be able to, though thats just what i think. |
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Well, Unless there is some other food source that provides the same nutrition and good taste as meat, then no we shouldn't. I know there's vegitarion options, but not only are those not very good tasting, vegitarians aren't as healthy as you think because they aren't getting a diet of meat with their diet of vegatables, etc.
Also, survival of the fittest. |
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Well, it depends on the person and also sometimes religion like the Hindu cause they can't eat cows cause there like god or something i need to catch up on my hinduism hahaha., And jews can't eat pork and their food needs to be kosher hense kosher salt.
But how do you make meat kosher? but most people in the world love meat!! |
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Well, there's more to this debate for me: although it would bankrupt my parents to follow these practices right now, I do take much offense to traditional slaughtering; Kosher is the way to go. Additionally, we have to eat /some/ life so survive, be it animals or plants.
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I don't like the idea of slaughtering or killing animals. However, at the same time, if an animal that is a carnivore was hungry and you were the only thing walking around, would it ask you if it could eat you? No... it would try its chances and begin its hunt. So, I see no problem with eating animals. I mean, humans are animals as well.
It is quite funny in my opinion. How humans are animals and when we're eaten by another animal like a Wolf, Bear, Lion, Tiger, etc... people start going balistic. Yet, when we attack those same animals and eat them, people feel it is alright? I am sure that same wolf, bear, tiger, lion, etc... had children, or other family as well so it's not appropriate for us to say, "well, John had a son and a daughter but was eaten so this is an outrage." No, the world doesn't work in that way. Hopefully, that last part will be easy for everyone to understand and not sound confusing. ;P |
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Pretty much explains my view on the debate. Besides, eating meat provides a balance of nutrition in a human's diet, which is essential for a healthy life. However, to ensure the 'dignity' (I can't find a better word) of animals even when they are slaughtered for food (in restaurants, etc), certain specific procedures have to be followed in most Arab/Islamic countries. As an example, over here in the UAE, you're not allowed to slaughter an animal for food by stabbing or electrocuting it because that would make it suffer more.
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Everyone acts like it is surprising or unexpected to hear about a Lion, Tiger, or Bear eat a human. Why be shocked? We eat them so it is only EXPECTED for them to give us the same treatment. |
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I mean, usually when an animal attacks, it attacks to kill. Whether it is hungry and wants food or feels threatened. Last edited by Neo Pikachu; June 14, 2010 at 12:09:11 PM. |
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I think eating animals is fine, as long as they aren't alive when you eat them. Make sure they are dead first, and make sure they died as quickly as possible.
That being said, I can't stand to eat anything that even looks like it came off of an animal (like stake--you can see the individual muscle fibers, tendons, fat tissue, etc). Ground beef is pretty much my limit, though bacon and fried chicken don't seem to bother me for some reason. |
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In the words of Mufasa:
"The antelope eat the grass, and we eat the antelope. When we die, our bodies become the grass, and the antelope eat the grass. So you see, we are all connected...in the great circle of life." So no, I don't think eating animals is necessarily bad, as it provides some nutrients that vegetable can't. Plus the Mighty Tsutaaja says they taste awesome! |
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I think we should not eat meat, because the main problem is that how animals are killed.
We should progressively change our eating styles and food supplies, for example, more humane killings of animals, or even, combining plant and animal genes to create beef-growing plants. |
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As a Native American, I can claim to have actually ran up to a hooved animal and stabbing it in the neck before it ran off. I ate this beast when it bled to death.
We need meat to live. Without it, we degenerate into whiny liberals who drive Prius' and buy Macbooks. I'll take a quad-stacker, plz. |
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I suppose I enjoy italic text. And also I just said 'nowadays'. I need some sleep. |
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To survive yes, without protein you would be completely nothing, (I know your come-back will be "Meat isn't the only thing that give's you protein", ok yes your right about that, but still eating plant's.....that would be outrageous (it's over 9000!!!!!) XD
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"I came across a vegetarian one day, and he said to me, 'why do you eat helpless animals? What have they ever done to you?' Well, I told him this. 'You ever heard of Global Warming? Well, do you know what It's caused by? Cows. Cows Fart and let methane gas into the air which eats away at the ozone layer and making the earth warmer. And the only thing countering this is oxygen let off by plants, so look at this, remember those Polar bears? Well I'm eating what's killing them, and you're eating what's saving them.'"
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I like the idea that I am eating something that was alive at one point in time, and is now dead JUST so I can eat something. They are like... bad models, which must be recycled into humans. We are the process of elimination for them, and if they die, for us to gain food, then that is there purpose, to live, and die again.
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No matter what lifestyle choice you make these days, you almost invariably support a company, product, or service which was created at the expense of animals' lives. You would likely have to live an Amish lifestyle in order to achieve some semblance of this position of not killing animals, and even then this isn't exactly true since being Amish doesn't preclude you from eating meat.
So yes, an Amish vegetarian who eats nothing but celery or something. That's what your future looks like for you. Of course, then what about plants? They're living things too, so we shouldn't harm them either right? The logical extreme leads one to say that the only way to prevent your causing harm to any other living thing is to just kill yourself. |
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Mm, lemme jump in on this.
My belief is that God put animals on the earth to be eaten, both by animals and by humans. There isn't a problem with eating them. You probably eat them when you don't notice. We were pretty much made to eat them. And, where would we get protien and other essential nutrients without meat? |
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We are thieves by nature, as are all non-producers. We cannot syntethize our own organic compounds, so we have to steal them from other lifeforms, be they plants or animals. The act of stealing these compounds kills said lifeform. Failing to partake in this activity results in starvation and death. I don't believe it's our place to argue what we are, and I believe that if we have four sharp teeth in our mouth, they're there for a reason. I also don't believe man-made morality of recent centuries has any say to a pace set by nature for hundreds of millions of years.
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I always have liked plants. The colors, the textures...and I like eating them, so much. I'm not a fan of most meats, but I do like fish and seafood, but that's all (actually I could eat a fried scorpion whenever I visit China). But that's not because of my sympathy or pity for animals, because if I had that for animals, I should have that for plants. We need to eat to live, and you eat what you like. If you like the taste of animals, eat them. It's that simple. Last edited by Pflanze; April 20, 2011 at 12:30:35 AM. |
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We need meat. I'm perfectly fine with people who kill animals and sell the food or eat it themselves. I haven't got the heart to do it myself, but I do love meat, so I just eat it without thinking of what it is. it's not that I think it's acceptable, per say, but I do know that it's pretty necessary. I'd love to be a vegetarian, but if I couldn't have bacon, or chicken, or burgers, I don't know what I'd do.
Hunting for game, however, is just pitiful and morally reprehensible in every way I can think of. Would you want someone to shoot your father, stuff his head, and hang it over their fireplace? Absolutely not! Killing animals is no different than killing humans in my eyes. |
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They would do it to us given the opportunity (in fact they sometimes do). Hunt to survive is what animals do, even humans. It's the circle of life. I feel as long as the hunting is humane ( as long as it's an instant death no suffering) its fine.
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Hunting as a sport is utterly deplorable to me; regardless of the acknowledge one gets from their peers, taking a life for the sake of such a thing is unforgivable. Even though we have superior intellectual abilities, other animals`lives are worth just as much as ours. I understand that human carnivorous consumption results in hunting, but hunting occurs between animals regardless. I`m not saying I`m really for hunting, even so-humans can survive as vegetarians. But at the very least, hunting should be kept to an absolute minimum, only enough to support our species. Though, vegetarianism could in fact benefit the entire planet. Human beings, having such a great ability for higher thinking, disrupt the flow of predation. We`re the biggest predators on earth, and with the constantly increasing number of human beings, our hunting activity will eventually disrupt the food chains of many other species. Vegetarianism seems inevitable, at some point.
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Another thing is our canine teeth. God (or whomever you believe in) gave us canine teeth for a reason. And if you believe in evolution, we have evolved with these teeth for a reason. |
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Hunting is fine. However, misusing the privelige to hunt isn't okay. I mean, you can't just go shoot somthing and leave it. You take it and you eat it. You don't kill for sport. You kill to eat. You don't kill endangered animals. You leave them be so their are hopes of repopulation, and some day, not be endangered. You only hunt animals to eat their meat, (referring to a deer here) not take the antlers and leave the rest. So if you really don't misuse the privellege of hunting, it's okay
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Society has become so detached that we no longer identify meat for what it is. It was once another living thing. Living things will kill other living things. Not everything will kill simply for food, many animals do it for sport. That's nature and we are not above it. The problem is that humans are extremely good at killing things to the point we need limits.
Hunting and gathering is what built up our civilization until agriculture and animal husbandry were introduced. Is it sad that something may die? Perhaps, but it will happen whether or not humans were around. Many predators will kill another creature for the fun it and not for sustenance. This is not the point, however. The fact this is being debated shows that civilization can find killing for fun deplorable and this sets us aside from other species. My viewpoint is neutral on the issue of hunting for sport. If one is hunting their own meal, is it a very primal experience. They are aware another life was taken so theirs could eat. There is little difference between going to the grocery for beef or shooting deer, short of the methods obtaining it. Last edited by hinorashi; July 9, 2011 at 12:10:39 AM. |
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I'd prefer eating domesticated animals, really. At least then I know what's been fed to them and how healthy they are. But I don't want meat from a cow who's been wading in her own manure most of her life, I want free range.
Also here's an unserious comment but so did lite and he's an admin so I guess it's ok: If God didn't want us eating meat, why did he make it so delicious? |
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I probably would. Meat is meat. I wouldn't eat MY dog, since it's my friend, but I would eat a dog I've never met before. (P.S. I don't have a dog this is hypothetical)
I wouldn't even mind eating a human if it wasn't considered a one-way ticket to Hell. |
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My Personal Opinion.
Eating meat has always been around and unless every carnivorous creature evolves in such a way that they only need plants or fruit to survive then there isn't much that can be done. However, you still need to eat what you can to survive which can sometimes even mean turning to another source of food that natures not intended. This can be seen in other species (rare or otherwise).
Personally, I have no trouble with it as long as the animal is humanely killed with good reason. Good reason meaning that it can actually feed something and isn't just for fun and waste. For example when I die, I want my body to go to science or donors. For an animal, if the body is eaten or put to some use other than a heartbreaking trophy then fair enough. The only time I get sorely annoyed is if the animal is hunted to near extinction. |
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Uh, yeah. But it's not always so black and white with the hunting debate. On one hand, other animals in the wild constantly kill animals that are considered lower on the food chain then they are, and since humans are highest on the food chain, shouldn't that give us free roam? But on the other hand, there's the whole animal rights thing. Now don't get me wrong, I obviously would never advocate animal abuse - but I have nothing wrong with humans killing animals as a food source, simply because that's what every other carnivore/omnivore on earth does to get by. Regardless of how intelligent they are. I don't however support people just going around killing things because they think it's fun. :V That doesn't exactly translate in nature, except maybe as psychopathy? |
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