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Old July 10, 2011, 10:16:59 PM
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Hey its PHANTOMxTRAINER. I need some team building help. I was at the PKMN Center/Nintendo World yesterday and i got beat by a 10 year old. I was shocked, but then i realized he made 2nd Place in VGC Juniors. So i was relieved. He called me a cheater for using a jirachi and a terrakion. (He doesnt know the difference between Ubers and legendaries i guess..) Anyways, i was still beat, and i decided that i need to step up my game, especially if i am gonna see the kid again. (He seems to be well known around the store so it is likely) And now to the point of the thread. I NEED HELP ON MAKING A TEAM! If you can help me make a good team that would be great.

Ok i am definitely using a sandstorm team.

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Old July 11, 2011, 02:52:41 AM
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That sucks to lose to a kid! Anyway, I would be glad to help you make a team. You just need to make the decision of which type of team you want. (Weather, Casual, one with your Favorite Pokemon, etc.) Just make a decision and I will help you make a awesome team!
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Old July 11, 2011, 05:03:56 AM
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Yeah well i know about that, but what i dont know what would be better for me. I was going through teams on smogon, and i think i like this team a lot, but it is for triples. So for that, i was wondering if i should make teams for everything, weather, singles, doubles, triples, (etc.) http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3422113 WHat do you think i should do?
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Old July 11, 2011, 06:21:43 AM
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It seems like a good team but almost every battle you will be doing is Single so it is best to make a Single team. I personally love weather, espicially Sandstorm, so we could start with a weather team if you want.

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Old July 11, 2011, 06:24:53 AM
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Alright, yeah i guess ill do that since i have a tourney in 10 days. You probably know which one... So should i do sand, rain, hail (Probably not), or sunny?

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Old July 11, 2011, 06:26:59 AM
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Honestly it is all up to you but since you liked the Rain team I guess we will go with Rain but its your decision.

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Old July 11, 2011, 06:30:21 AM
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Yeah, but i am stuck between sand and rain, for the fact that i have a gliscor with you, and they are good in a sand team.
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Old July 11, 2011, 06:46:04 AM
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Well since you really like Gliscor then lets go with Sandstorm! First thing to do is pick between 2 Pokemon that you have to have for a Sandstorm team, Tyranitar or Hippowdon. I really like both of these guys but they are completely different in type and stats. Tyranitar is offensive with decent defenses, while Hippowdon is more on the defensive side while has a decent attack power. I will provide a set for each Pokemon below and you can pick between them.

Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Ability: Sandstream
Nature: Sassy
EVs: 252 HP/160 Sp.Atk/96 Sp.Def
~Stealth Rock
~Pursuit
~Ice Beam
~Fire Blast

This set is good for getting rid of Drought Ninetails and Drizzle Politoed. Tyranitar is slower than both of these pesky Pokemon so at the beginning of the battle when he is your lead then Sandstorm is set up, not Sun or Rain, so the other pokemon might be scared out and when they do then you Pursuit them, which in some case can KO them both. the other moves are basic.

Hippowdon @ Leftovers
Ability: Sandstream
Nature: Impish
EVs: 252 HP/120 Def/136 Sp.Def
~Stealth Rock
~Roar
~Slack Off
~Earthquake/Stone Edge

This set is basic and you are probably familiar with it so there isn't much to say here.
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Old July 11, 2011, 06:50:52 AM
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I definitely heard of both sets, but i am not sure how they work. Is Hippowdon a tank? and can hippowdon remove Drizzle toad, and drought tails?
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Old July 11, 2011, 06:52:58 AM
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He can get rid of them with Roar and if you get lucky and Ninetails stays in and uses Energy ball on you then you can KO it with Earthquake but Modest Politoed w/ 252 Sp.Atk might be able to take you out with 2 Hydro Pumps if you don't Roar it out!

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Old July 11, 2011, 07:02:08 AM
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Darn, i hate egg moves... I would pick hippowdon, but it has Gen IV only moves. But T-Tar is much easier to obtain.
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Old July 11, 2011, 07:05:44 AM
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I know it's a hard choice but Tyranitar is a better choice to save Sandstorm and keep it up since so many weather teams are common these days. So which do you want? No rush.

Also when I get my DS back I will help you make a Tyranitar and Hippowdon as I already have both on them but not the right EVs and natures so we will have to breed a lot, lol!

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Old July 11, 2011, 07:10:53 AM
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Yay! I choose the Tyranitar
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Old July 11, 2011, 07:28:27 AM
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Ok, now we can add in Gliscor a couple of Sweeping Pokemon that love Sandstorm.

Here is a great set for Gliscor:

Gliscor @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 HP/80 Atk/176 Spd
~Protect
~Fling
~Earthquake
~Acrobatics

This set is common except the EVs which I made up and seem to work quite well.

Now for 2 Awesome Sweepers!

Sweeper #1:

Excadrill @ Air Baloon
Ability: Sand Rush
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
~Swords Dance
~X-Scissor
~Rock Slide
~Earthquake

Who doesn't love this epic mole! This set is basic except for Jolly which is to outspeed other Excadrill so there is not much to say here either.

Sweeper #2

Stoutland @ Choice Band
Ability: Sand Rush
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
~Fire Fang
~Crunch
~Wild Bolt
~Return

Your probably gona say "Really, Stoutland! WTF dude!?" But trust me, this set is amazing, I use it myself. I made this set up one day while I want trying to complete a Sandstorm team that worked really good with it. He has great coverage and can also get rid of opposing Excadrill.

Well, what do you think so far?

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Old July 11, 2011, 08:22:34 AM
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ok I choose excadrill. So wait, is giscor in the team 2?
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Old July 11, 2011, 08:57:41 AM
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Yes, all 3 of them are, lol! I just asked if you liked those 3 Pokemon.
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Old July 11, 2011, 08:59:27 AM
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Ooooh, so my team so far is , Tyranitar, Gliscor, Excadrill, Stoutland?
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Old July 11, 2011, 09:00:14 AM
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Ii is if you like it so far! Do you like it?

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Old July 11, 2011, 09:05:11 AM
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Yeah its good, but i need someone to summon back up a sandstorm just in case, the weather changes or something
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Old July 11, 2011, 09:13:08 AM
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If that happens then switch into Tyranitar again, lol! (try not to let him die, only use him when you have to) Also its not that great to have a Tyranitar and Hippowdon together in the same team.

Anyway, you have a stong weakness to Water and I know just the right cure!

Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
Nature: Relaxed
EVs: 252 HP/48 Def/208 Sp.Def
~Thunder Wave
~Spikes
~Leech Seed
~Gyro Ball

It is a little different version of te basic set so not much to say here either.

Do you like tis idea?
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Old July 11, 2011, 09:15:29 AM
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I was gonna go with this set, but different item. Rocky Helmet. Iron Barbs, Rocky Helmet, Leech Seed. That deals tons of damage
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Old July 11, 2011, 10:13:17 AM
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Hmmm....that will work!

Ok, your team so far: Tyranitar, Gliscor, Excadrill, Stoutland, Ferrothorn.

*WARNING*
*MAJOR FIGHTING WEAKNESS DETECTED*

Yep, I just notice this myself. Over half of you team is weak to Fighting so that means it is time for a Ghost-Type! The best Pokemon for this job is Jellicent!

Jellicent @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
Nature: Bold
EVs: 248 HP/252 Def/4 Spd
~Recover
~Taunt
~Toxic
~Scald

This guy is pretty epic at the stuff he can do! This set has Double Statuses which are pretty good if you can give them to your opponent! He also gets rid of that Major Fighting Weakness and also helps your Water Weakness with Water Absorb! It is a cool Pokemon and could be a big help to your team.

So do you like the last member of your team?
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Old July 11, 2011, 10:33:50 AM
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Alright! Hes good! That was much easier than i thought. Ima make an actual RMT Thread for the sandstorm team. Thanks a lot. Should i make a non wheather team too?
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Old July 11, 2011, 10:47:21 AM
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Ok, I'm glad you like the team and I hope you get good rates! (I won't rate it because I helped make it lol) I will help you make a new non-weather one over PM.

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Old July 11, 2011, 11:18:17 AM
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What would gliscor be? A staller?
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Old July 11, 2011, 01:08:13 PM
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It's hard to explain what he is but all he is for is to Protect to set up Poison Heal then Fling the Toxic Orb to your opponent (DON'T FLING TO STEELS) to Poison them and then attack!
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Old July 14, 2011, 02:39:04 PM
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yeah, ik i put him as a staller.I think i wanna make a regular, non weather team for another one. I am planning to use gliscor, and the PKTOPIA Magmortar.
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Old July 23, 2011, 03:18:48 PM
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You are going to need a grass type thats fast because one thing is you have a major water weakness. I also am a skilled battler and I can give good move tips.
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Old July 23, 2011, 03:25:52 PM
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The sand team is over. Which means, a mod/admin can lock this thread. Thanks for the help everyone~
 

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