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Old March 6, 2010, 02:36:22 PM
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Default Will Zoroark be in Super Smash Bros. 4?

Well, we all know what happened with Lucario, the first movie-featured gen 4 Pokémon. It made it into Super Smash Bros. Brawl. So, do you think Zoroark will be in SSB4 (or whatever they decide to call it)?

I think it will most likely be in.
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Old March 6, 2010, 02:41:07 PM
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I can't say for sure. Knowing nothing about it, it's hard to make a decision. The body build does look like that of a fighter, but they would have to find moves from its moveset (which is currently unknown) or create new ones for its special moves and its Final Smash if they keep it, not to mention the other gimmicks they'll add.
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I can't say for sure. Knowing nothing about it, it's hard to make a decision. The body build does look like that of a fighter, but they would have to find moves from its moveset (which is currently unknown) or create new ones for its special moves and its Final Smash if they keep it, not to mention the other gimmicks they'll add.
Smash 4 will probably have new fighting features that prior ones didn't have (like Final Smashes in Brawl).
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As much as I'd hate to see my favorite brawler go I have to say it will probably be in this game.

I wonder if it'll know transform?

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It seems likely to me: first Mewtwo, then Lucario, now Zoroark. They're all bipedal and were all stars of the first movies featuring the first Pokémon of their generation. And if it's not playable, it'll at least be a sticker, right?
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I think it is unlikely but, I would have to know more about Zoroark before I can say for sure. Like if he can talk telepathically (Mewtwo and Lucario can). I know that makes no sense maybe but, oh well.
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That would be awesome, but still the most common Pokemon would be put in brawl like Pikachu.
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I say yes.

If Lucario was movie featured and put into SSBB, then why shouldn't Zoroark be put in SSB4 as he is also movie featured?
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Guess we can say bye to Lucario...
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It appears probable for now. However it is distant as the next SSB game shant see light for a few years. Dispite this though,if the trend continues then we may see him in a particular fighting in the future...of course only time will tell.
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I think he has a pretty good shot at being in it.
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Old March 7, 2010, 07:53:51 AM
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For me, I say he might possibly be in SSB4.
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For sure! Lucario was. Zoroark will be.
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Depending on how his moveset shapes up to be, most definitely. He could be another Mewtwo clone, or, judging from his build, a Wolf clone.
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I forsee it being a Kirby clone, actually, with its mimicking powers.
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Old March 8, 2010, 02:55:00 AM
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Thank God, I'm sick of the bipedal blue dog.

Long live blackfox.
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That's assuming there's even a SSB4.

I'm sort of doubtful there's even going to be a sequel.
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Old March 8, 2010, 06:32:26 PM
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That's assuming there's even a SSB4.

I'm sort of doubtful there's even going to be a sequel.
There will be one. We just don't know it. If pokemon has made it to 4th gen then so can SSB. You just need to give it 7 years (that's a long time) then we shall see what happens. SSB has done stuff BEYOND US.
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Smash Bros. War (that's what I'll be calling it) won't be out till the next home console does. The next console cycle won't be till 2012/2013 or so.
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Smash Bros. War (that's what I'll be calling it) won't be out till the next home console does. The next console cycle won't be till 2012/2013 or so.
Yes, and it shall be a first person shooter like CoD: Modern Warfare.
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Now don't start to be going off topic.
I would say Possibly. As not much is know about Zoroark, I can't say for sure
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Old March 10, 2010, 03:21:07 AM
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i think it might be in there because Lucario was in there so why not Zoroark?

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Old March 11, 2010, 06:27:52 PM
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They have to put Meowth (NOT Team Rocket's Meowth, a normal one) in before considering Zoroark.
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Old March 13, 2010, 01:50:51 AM
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I really hope so and maybe it can turn into Zorua too!! That would be totally awsome.
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Old March 19, 2010, 12:20:56 PM
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I LIKE THE IDEA it's just that what would is moveset be? And there maybe a chance that a DIFFERENT 5 GEN POKEMON WILL BE CHOSEN! We're pokenoobs compared to our knowledge of this so called V gen. Anyways, Most likely it's a maybe. I don't think it will work and if it does, GOOD! Besides, what'll happen in 6 gen? Cat, I think this Zorua thing has gone a bit too far don't you think? Wait till we hear more about it. Okay?

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Old March 19, 2010, 03:01:36 PM
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Charizard, I'd appreciate it if you stopped using such a huge font. ._.
I think it's very probable that Zoroark will be included in the next Super Smash Bros. game. It'll probably come out after the fifth generation of Pokémon, so it's not as though they need to make up a moveset without a moveset.
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I say possibly. It all depends on wether or not they want to continue the trend of movie-featured Pokemon.
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I said possibly...
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Old April 6, 2010, 09:07:05 PM
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Well if you think about it. Zoroark would be a good addition to the Super Smash Bros team. But still he would have the ability to transform which shouldn't be chosen as a move since anyone can kick someones ass with their own moves. So mostly if Zoroark was gonna be in the game than He should have a set of moves that would not be cheap thats actually fit for a good pokemon like Dark Claw. His final smash should be something awesome like maybe they should make him transform at that point.
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I would say possibly.
Nintendo would have to top Lucario's move set for them to put Zoroark in SSB4.

If they don't top Lucario, it would be taking a step back and I will just shake my head....
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I don't think there will be a SSB4. You can't improve on SSBB. Should there be one though, I'd like to se Zoroark in it, though by then the whole of Gen V will have been revealed, and I'd rather have another awesome new Pokémon take that spot!
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I don't think they will make a SSB4. (sorry if I'm getting off topic) Why change perfection? It's already perfect enough as it is actually. It's like making a Titanic 2. (I HATE the Titanic movie) It's already bad enough as it is. So, why make a SSB4. I can't think of any other way of making SSB look more SSB-ish. Some assit throphies are okay, and new pokeballs. (and pokemon : P) Any further and the series will lose it's taste. (like the poke anime to me) And then it will go mortal combat where you mash buttons and stuff. Anyways, on the topic, Zororark wouldn't how should I say " kick ass" ,but I would reccomend a new pokemon trainer over him.
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Why change perfection?
Because SSBB is NOT perfect!
In fact! I find SSBB to be a step backwards from SSBM!
Controls are too n00b friendly in my opinion.

There should be SSB4 and Zoroark should defiantly be in it.
I rest my case. *walks out of room*
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I honestly don't think Zoroark will be in SSB4. He might be a trophy though...
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zorark deserves to be in a SMBS game. its a cool pokemon. plus it would be cool to see zoark own
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So. It'll have Kirby's powers, eh? Press B and POOF! You turn into the nearest character to you in 1 and a half second(s)! So, I don't know for sure. But I'm hoping on it! Lets see.... Lucario, Mewtwo, and NOW Zoroark. Wow. I'd think they would put Zorua in it so it'd be like Pichu. But, Zoroark seems much larger and has a chance in being in it.
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Lets hope Zoroark will. SSB has gotten better every time and that would even make it better!
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SSB has gotten better every time and that would even make it better!
OBJECTION!

I personally like Melee better than Brawl.
IMO, Melee requires more skill than Brawl.

But Zoroark in SSB4 would make it pretty good.
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Because SSBB is NOT perfect!
In fact! I find SSBB to be a step backwards from SSBM!
OBJECTION!!!

Um...I don't know why I did that, but SSBB is perfect because it's for everyone! *walks out room*...And besides I'm better with n00b controls are good long as they are PERFECT.

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Oh yeah for a post from before about all the chosen bipedal pokemon, how they can all telepathicly speak, uhm I saw the commercial for the Zorua/Zoroark movie and it says Zorua is telepathic, now most likely zororoak will be too. So he fits the pattern that SSB goes for, telepathic, bipedal poke movie stars.
And also I think that Brawl and Melee have its own quirks
Brawl with its new attachments, and melee with a harder challenge.
I will agree with the comment about it being n00b friendly, since, anyone can run up, grab a smash bll and with the right character, wipe out the whole field.
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Old April 18, 2010, 11:22:03 AM
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Why change perfection?
What if there's a portable Super Smash Bros. game? I think it'd work quite well with the DS's local wireless and wi-fi. I think Super Smash Bros. is too successful for Nintendo not to come up with another game, and I think Zoroark will be in it.
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What if there's a portable Super Smash Bros. game? I think it'd work quite well with the DS's local wireless and wi-fi. I think Super Smash Bros. is too successful for Nintendo not to come up with another game, and I think Zoroark will be in it.
Alright, that's pretty darn awesome and perfect...and original right there.
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I don't think there will be a SSB4. You can't improve on SSBB. Should there be one though, I'd like to se Zoroark in it, though by then the whole of Gen V will have been revealed, and I'd rather have another awesome new Pokémon take that spot!
I disagree, they could atleast improve the Wi-fi. Man, was it bad! :x
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I disagree, they could atleast improve the Wi-fi. Man, was it bad! :x
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS^^^
Searching for random matches takes forever, and even then it lags quite a bit. Mariokarts is much better.
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THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS^^^
Searching for random matches takes forever, and even then it lags quite a bit. Mariokarts is much better.
Too bad I've never played MKWii...

But anyway...
BACK TO TOPIC
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Hello,Im new here, and I say possibly cause we dont even know if there will be one.
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I bet so, considering what they did with Lucario.
I'm betting they'll kick out Lucario, and drop Zoroark in his place.
If nothing, a Zorua/Zoroark Pokeball throw that would kill everything. x3
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I hope they do.
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I think they will.Seeing that it does look like a fighter,(claws,teeth,etc.)I would say that they probably will put it in Super Smash Bros. 4.Like they did with Mewtwo and Lucario,it makes perfect sense that they'd probably put Zoroark in.
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I think Zoroark has a decent chance of making it in. He certainly seems powerful enough to hold his own, and that energy burst he pulled after jumping off that building in the movie trailer has potential for a down B. As everyone else has said, his moveset needs to evolve more in order to be sure, but he has potential now.

However, I'm noticing that a lot of people are attributing transformation powers to him. We haven't seen any evidance that he actually turns into whatever he's mimicking. What he's making are illusions, but I'm betting it's still Zoroark underneath.

Actually, that could have serious potential in team battles. If you can pull the ole' switcheroo in the middle of the fight you can land a good few cheap hits on your 'teammate' before they know what hit them. Kinda like the Spy from TF2. Dunno how that could fit into free-for-alls, though
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Most likely. For sure.

He's the next lucario.xD
But they ruined Lucario in brawl, same with Mewtwo.DX They make them look overrated.>.>
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It would be pretty cool if he was, but I wouldn't like him if he plays like Kirby with the copy powers.
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It would be pretty cool if he was, but I wouldn't like him if he plays like Kirby with the copy powers.
Why does everyone keep saying this? I'm sorry, but until we see evidence of him using the powers of the creatures he's mimicking I can't understand why everyone is attributing transformation to him. That would make Ditto entirely redundant.

Sorry, but I absolutely hate baseless speculation. Extrapolation based on evidence is fine, but when people start getting into terra infirma they're only setting themselves up for disapointment, and the worst of it is that some people will actually complain that Nintendo didn't include ideas that THEY'D come up with based on nothing. I'm not saying anyone here will do that, but I've been conditioned to hate it.
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Why does everyone keep saying this? I'm sorry, but until we see evidence of him using the powers of the creatures he's mimicking I can't understand why everyone is attributing transformation to him. That would make Ditto entirely redundant.

Sorry, but I absolutely hate baseless speculation. Extrapolation based on evidence is fine, but when people start getting into terra infirma they're only setting themselves up for disapointment, and the worst of it is that some people will actually complain that Nintendo didn't include ideas that THEY'D come up with based on nothing. I'm not saying anyone here will do that, but I've been conditioned to hate it.
This^
I don't understand why people say Zoroark can transform. I haven't seen anything close to transforming from Zoroark yet.

Also, when you think about it, there is a good chance Zoroark will be in Smash. I say this because of the fact that Pikachu was in the first one (was the main Pokemon around that time). Mewtwo was in the second one (some sorta movie or something around that time). Lucario was in the 3rd (because of the movie). And since Nintendo is making a movie with Zoroark being in the center, Nintendo will probably put Zoroark in Smash 4.

I'm not saying they are going to, I'm just saying there is a good chance of Zoroark being in the next game (if there is one).
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Zoroark's gotta be in the next SSB if they make one. I hope they keep Lucario with him instead of making Zoroark a total replacement, as I'd say the two go hand in hand with the major fanbase of them both. They do have a Zoroark model/texture hack in the meantime for the current SSBB Lucario on Kittehcorp. I'm not linking anyone there, but it's supposedly taken from the next Poke Park Wii. Take a good look at my current avatar, that should be a good example.

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It might, it might not, even if it had it's own movie, the chances of Zoroark being in there is 50/50. just saying.
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Oh I can defiantly see zoroark in the next smash game and I can only imagine how illusion will be used.
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Oh god I hope not....

The thing is, Nintendo probably won't do it. Zoroark was one of the many reasons I left the Pokemon series. (oh boy, I better prepare for the fanboy/fangirl rage of this now)

Anyways, no...just no. The point of this aurgument is useless. I want to see Nintendo focus on more third party characters. Such as Mega Man or even FF/KH characters. But, that's just me.
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You see, the only problem with more 3rd party characters is more rights that need to be bought. While I would like characters like Megaman and a KH character in SSB4, it would probably be at most 3.

Back on topic, I do think Zoroark being in SSB4 is realistic. It's possible, but it might not happen. Would I like it? It just depends on how Zoroark is designed for that game. But it's more than likely they will add Zoroark because I doubt they would add Lucario again. Just look at Mewtwo.
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I'm not entirely sure on how likely it will be, but I can say that it'll be ****ing awesome if it is.
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I'm sure they'll put Zoroark in. I'm just surprised they didn't add Raichu, yet. XD
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I do think Zoroark being in SSB4 is realistic. It's possible, but it might not happen. Would I like it? It just depends on how Zoroark is designed for that game. But it's more than likely they will add Zoroark because I doubt they would add Lucario again. Just look at Mewtwo.
Good point. Zoroark DID have his own movie. I can kinda see Zoroark but what about Victini? It's the other possibility since it recently had its own movie.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzarNhGVEwY

Possibly, but just in case they don't, we have the MDL0 format to help.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzarNhGVEwY

Possibly, but just in case they don't, we have the MDL0 format to help.
Reshiram and Zekrom... eh, I thought we were talking about Zoroark here.
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I think they'll more likely use a 6th (or very unlikely 7th) gen pokemon. Seriously, did we see a 2nd or 3rd gen pokemon in melee or brawl?
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Old February 26, 2012, 06:17:14 PM
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We saw a few 2nd and 3rd gen Pokemon used as support Pokeball characters in Brawl. And you're thinking waaay to far ahead. I mean, 6th gen? Really? They've already announced a 4th Smash game (from what I was told) and I doubt they'll release a 6th gen before then.
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We saw a few 2nd and 3rd gen Pokemon used as support Pokeball characters in Brawl. And you're thinking waaay to far ahead. I mean, 6th gen? Really? They've already announced a 4th Smash game (from what I was told) and I doubt they'll release a 6th gen before then.
Hey you never know.

In fact maybe we could get Meleotta or even Genosect.
Once I think about it they be much cooler in the next SSB.
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Pokemon games are released faster than smash bros.
Brawl was announce in 2005. It was released in 2008.
Pokemon B/W was announced in 2010. It released in 2010/2011.
April to September of 2010 was the gap from announcement to release in japan.
Brawl had an almost 4 year gap.
Big difference there.

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As Lucario was similar to Mewtwo, I think Zoroark would do the same a bit. As for a Final Smash, I think he would change transform into one of the other playing characters with invincibility and added power. Maybe his B move could be a Dark Pulse but if you charge it up, it would be a short Nasty Plot and when you release it, it'll be an awesome Dark Pulse!
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I think Zoroark's final smash would be either he turns into one of the legendary beasts, temporarily gaining their powers. Another possibility is that he unleashes a incredibly powerful Night Daze, damaging all characters around Zoroark.

There is also the possibility that Zoroark's final smash might not do damage; like Princess Peach's final smash, (Which doesn't actually deal direct damage) Zoroark might just use it's illusion powers to change the stage for a limited time. (Probably into a random stage)
Also, I think Zoroark will have a similar moveset to Mewtwo and Lucario in the previous smash games, such as if you held down 'B', Zoroark would charge up a Dark Pulse attack, etc.

I just hope if they do add Zoroark, that they make him fast. I could hardly stand to use Lucario due to his slowness...*Gets out Sonic*

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Just a little note, this a thread for discussing if Zoroark will be in Smash 4, not a thread for discussing what his moves could be in Smash 4. Sorry to snap a little, but I'd like for this thread to stay on topic.

I've already mentioned my point - Zoroark has a high chance to be in Smash 4 due to it being like Lucario and Mewtwo: human-like with special powers.
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I'm still holding out for a 6th gen pokemon.
I'll be perfectly happy if they do add it, but as likely as it is, I'd prefer they add some pokemon that have serious potential, like cubone or dusklops, not pokemon that every pokenoob knows about.
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Old March 6, 2012, 11:41:13 AM
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I think Zoroark's final smash would be either he turns into one of the legendary beasts, temporarily gaining their powers. Another possibility is that he unleashes a incredibly powerful Night Daze, damaging all characters around Zoroark.

There is also the possibility that Zoroark's final smash might not do damage; like Princess Peach's final smash, (Which doesn't actually deal direct damage) Zoroark might just use it's illusion powers to change the stage for a limited time. (Probably into a random stage)
Also, I think Zoroark will have a similar moveset to Mewtwo and Lucario in the previous smash games, such as if you held down 'B', Zoroark would charge up a Dark Pulse attack, etc.

I just hope if they do add Zoroark, that they make him fast. I could hardly stand to use Lucario due to his slowness...*Gets out Sonic*
I fail to see how this is off-topic to some folks, Silver clearly states hope for Zoroark getting into the next game, regardless if Silver talked about the moveset. That would be so great if he did with all of that, and I know I posted earlier my opinion on this matter. :3

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