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I am officially very much disappointed at Cartoon Network. I seriously am.
We all know they miff the credits with an ad and put in too many of the same commercials, but they really went overboard this time. The entire beginning of the movie wasn't aired. I knew it seemed weird not to see the "Pikachu the Movie" logo, and it makes sense now. I mean, seriously, YOU HAVE THE RIGHTS TO PREMIERE A MOVIE IN THE UNITED STATES, AND YOU REMOVE PART OF IT? WHY?! I really hope they air that bit on the Sunday showing. I hate you, CN. |
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But on the topic of the movie itself, I really enjoyed it. Last edited by Yoshi648; February 6, 2011 at 08:21:03 AM. |
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I enjoyed the movie,(even though for the most part I was watching Nostalgia Critic ) but I might have to see it again to get a full opinon on it. Also, I lol'd every time they said Raikou. |
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D: Man, (in terms of the anime)Ice Cream Syndrome is my favorite anime song! EDIT: Also, on a side note, whenever I hear that title I think of Yu-Gi-Oh/Open you Heart. Last edited by The Tropius of Tropiuses; February 6, 2011 at 02:15:46 PM. |
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Hm, it does sound a little like them, but I still find it quite cute.
Speaking of sound bytes from other movies, the DP trilogy used lots of sounds from the Godzilla series, especially Mothra, for the legends. Last edited by Cat333Pokémon; February 6, 2011 at 10:23:42 PM. |
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I did notice that once his tail is grabbed, that the person gets chubby for a split second before going back to Zuroa form. (which I though was funny.) |
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MIMA~!
Zorua's so cute in this movie...his voice just makes me want to CUDDLE WITH HIM~! But it was sad when Zoroark died...of course I knew Celebi would revive her somehow (I <3 CELEBI) Some of Zorua's quotes are so cute... "Then I was put on a flying boat!" "Then, I fell off the boat." "Mima's Mima!" Also, like all Pokemon villains (save for Team Rocket, they;re just comic relief), Kodai was an a**. Pardon my language, but he choked Celebi to unconsciousness and threw Zorua on multiple occasions. He's a bad man! >:U (Quoting Zorua) I also liked the animation for Zoroark's Night Burst. It was really cool. |
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I finally got to see the movie, and I gotta say that I love it.
Unlike other Pokemon movies I've seen, it didn't lose my attention halfway through the movie. The plot was interesting and I loved seeing Zorua and Zoroark in it, :> The one thing that bothered me was the way they pronounced Zoroark's name: Zoro-ork I thought it would be Zo-rork. Good movie, and the whole "mima" thing was cute. It showed a nice bond between a mother and her child. :> |
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In regards to the romanization, it's kind of a similar situation to Arceus, since it's romaji is "Aruseusu", which means that's exactly how it's pronounced, for the most part. "Arceus", is a romanization of that, removing extra vowel sounds such as the "u" at the end since they're unwritten in English, and using a C to "streamline" the name, so to speak. The original creators also explicitly stated that they come up with the names of the Legendary Pokemon to be used worldwide, which is what makes them so difficult to create. This has been the trend except for Zapdos, Moltres, Articuno, Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf. Yet, they stilled messed up the "Official" North American pronunciation by using "Are-key-us" in the dub of the 12th Movie, which was a pain in the neck since I had like a billion people commenting on my videos saying that was the official pronunciation because TPCI says so, despite the actual facts and logic proving they made a mistake. Then they'd start arguing with me about it -_- Last edited by AuraKshatriya; February 7, 2011 at 07:26:06 PM. |
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The thing is, there is also a North American pronunciation of "AR-see-us" in Pokémon Battle Revolution, which was recorded years prior to the 12th movie. |
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The sheer extent to which people can be stubborn sometimes is ridiculous. |
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Overall, I thought the movie was a bearable, slightly enjoyable experience.
I say that because of the entire opening being cut and the credits smashed and the commercials every 10 Arceus-damn minutes. Oh well, if I can go to the B/W Mall Tour I'll be able to see the theatrical version. |
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Okay, I'm done ranting. My response is also in a spoiler tag (for the same reason, as it wasn't in the aired version for those who want to wait for the DVD or see it in theaters):
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First ten minutes cut from Cartoon Network premier of movie 13
Cartoon Network cut the first ten minutes of "Zoroark: Master of Illusions" in the premier, much to the dismay of The Pokémon Company International, who did not give CN permission to do so. TPCi has since been in talks with Cartoon Network and future airings will have the first ten minutes in-tact.
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TPCi weren't happy about the removal of the opening: http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wik...work_movie_cut
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I can tell Cat's going to be happy to see this...
CN has been mistreaing Pokemon for years. Not too long ago, the new episodes aired at 7 AM, which is one reason why I've stopped watching the anime until just recently. Finally, TPCi is stepping up and doing something about it. Now I hope they'd stop fastforwarding the credits (they still do that right? I haven't seen a Pokemon movie in a while...). I hate that! Last edited by Leaftail; February 17, 2011 at 02:23:26 AM. |
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I noticed this too and it made me mad. I saw the Japanese movie where I was able to see the beginning but I couldn't understand what they were saying because I don't speak Japanese, so I was hoping to see and hear it in the American movie.
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I watched the movie just now. It was a great movie actually, unlike what Pokébeach said. The movie was good, and since I never knew about the cut scenes, I didn't notice that much of holes in the plot. The characters were well developed, and showed a good amount of maturity. I have to say that the antagonist was quite evil, mistreating Pokémon in a way that he was going to kill them! However, I have one major disappointment; they made Celebi SO weak! Seriously, it couldn't defend itself, not even against a Shuppet.
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Cartoon Network, despite your reruns of the good shows (Billy and Mandy, KND, etc.) and weekend airings of the anime, I dub thee Unforgiven. Points for whoever gets that reference |
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I recently watched the movie and thought that it was quite enjoyable. I was wondering what the Pokémon Baccer World Cup was, and how Zorua/Zoroark got captured by Kodai in the first place, until I read the posts over here. When I had a look at the summarized plot of the movie in Wikipedia, I understood why you guys were mad. I find no reason for CN to remove the introduction, as it's not long and actually has useful background information.
I'm not going to critique Pokémon movies as if they're 'normal' movies, since the former usually tend to be more... I don't know, predictable or redundant perhaps? I can't find a good word to perfectly describe what I think of them, but that hardly matters. The bottom line is: Pokémon movies are especially supposed to be enjoyed, not analyzed. And the 13th movie does exactly that, which is why I think it was great. I completely agree with this. I think that Kodai is probably one of the most antagonistic characters ever to be created in the Pokémon world. I don't remember any villainous person or group who tried to kill Pokémon with his bare hands, so I really liked how dark and corrupted the character of Kodai was. This also emphasizes Cat's first post: the tone of this movie was quite different from any previous Pokémon movie, so I'm looking forward to watching more movies of this kind in the future. Last edited by Shadow; February 19, 2011 at 02:39:44 AM. |
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Just watched it for myself a few days ago. If I hadn't heard about the cut scenes, I would have almost disliked this one, for the huge plot hole and lack of elaboration on events.
But other than that, awesome movie I'm just wondering how a little Zorua can talk, but its matured mother cant. He HAD to have learnt to do that SOMEWHERE :S edit: Also, relating to the cut bits. I just found out I missed out a scene that showed a player character (Ethan). /rage Last edited by AnathemA; February 18, 2011 at 09:38:40 AM. |
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It aired in the UK last weekend, and by the sounds of things our airing was far better than what CN did in America. The network that aired our one was CITV, and they didn't cut the introduction or the credits, and kept every part in the movie. Plus there were ad breaks every 30 minutes rather than every 15 minutes, which was nice. CITV are nice. Then the following day they showed the first two episodes of Pokémon Black/White, and then showed no new episodes of it this weekend... I wonder when it'll actually begin...
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I'm going to a Mall Tour stop in Lawrenceville on Sunday. I heard they have the full movie intact, including end credits, without commercials. (You know, like any normal movie theater would)
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All in all, I thought it was a VERY good movie. I loved how it was one of those ones that actually got you to feel sad as hell when Zoroark died, and anger at Kodai for what he did simply to look into the future. Loved the ending, though. One other complaint is how CN cut out ten minutes of the movie that explained a lot of gaps. I read that they would show the show again, unedited, but, of course, they didn't [as far as I know].
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For those of you within the US, tomorrow (4/16) at 5:00 PM, Cartoon Network will be re-airing the movie. Hopefully after the complaints TPCi lodged, the entire introduction will be shown (and if we are lucky, the credits).
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